urbino:I don't have much of an opinion on the specifics of how to handle the presence of large numbers of illegal immigrants. I just don't know enough about all the ramifications of the various approaches. In general, I think illegal immigration should be prevented, and anyone present in this country illegally should not be rewarded for having broken the law. This is -- or was until recent years -- a country held together by the rule of law; it's one of the core principles of our nation, and the continued health of our nation depends on widespread respect for it. The problem with illegals is: you can't demonstrate your respect for the rule of law by violating the law. Put differently, you can't join the social contract by violating its terms. So if there are people here illegally who want to become citizens and work to improve their lives and their families' futures, I'll be happy to have them . . . once they go back to their country of origin and show respect for the law and for the very notion of citizenship by immigrating here legally. Until then, whatever they may contribute, however hard-working and productive they may be, it's all built on a foundation of disrespect for the rule of law and for the will of the people, and that's deeply offensive.
urbino:Yup. I expect everyone -- from the newest citizen all the way to the president -- to respect the rule of law. The lack of it in the current president, his vice president, and so many of their advisers is, by far, the single biggest issue in this election, even though both major candidates largely ignored it.
PuroFreak:I don't see how Pres. Bush didn't respect the rule of Law during his presidency.
kuzi16:with a Democrat run congress and Senate, if any laws were broken that warranted Impeachment then he would have been.
urbino: kuzi16:with a Democrat run congress and Senate, if any laws were broken that warranted Impeachment then he would have been. Except that, as everyone knows, that is false. Before the Democratic majority in the House was even sworn in, the Speaker of the House announced she would brook no impeachment proceedings. Wisely, I think. As everyone also knows, it would have been futile to bother bringing charges in the House, because the Senate was divided 50-49, with one Dem in the hospital for most of the term, the 1-vote majority consisting of Joe Lieberman, and the Senate GOP voting in near-absolute partisan lockstep to support anything and everything the president did. There's also the fact that this has been the weakest Democratic congressional majority in history. They rolled over for Pres. Bush at an alarming rate. I know conservatives like to point out that the only thing less popular than Pres. Bush is the Dem congress. This is true. However, if you look at the internals of those polls, you find that the reason the congress is so unpopular is that it's incredibly unpopular with Democrats, specifically because it has been so weak-kneed.
phobicsquirrel:I doubt that obama will do those things you mentioned, but like I said time will tell. If you think bush isn't a liar than that's cool. we all have our own opinions. I have hope that this election will help this country turn on a right course, though we will find out in a few years.
tshaw:As I have said on other topics, the chances of bush's socialist policies passing are slim to none. I have never seen such dramatic reactions about an election. The president does not have that much control, prey obama surrounds himself with sound and logical minds.
phobicsquirrel: tshaw:As I have said on other topics, the chances of bush's socialist policies passing are slim to none. I have never seen such dramatic reactions about an election. The president does not have that much control, prey obama surrounds himself with sound and logical minds. I once thought that, but I mean Clinton got impeached for lying about a BJ, Bush, well let's just say nothing has happened. Eh, I hope things will get better in any light.
