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  • jlmartajlmarta Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,440
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    I proudly produced my photo ID when voting Tuesday just like everyone else had to. At least Florida makes you prove who you are to vote.
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
    JDH:
    It is easier and cheaper to get a US passport than a Pensylvania voter ID card. This is nothing more than a new form of Jim Crow, this time it's just aimed at Democrats of all colors instead of just black ones.
    If dems or anyone for that matter, are too dumb to produce a student id, drivers license, or their SS # and two utility bills, they shouldn't be voting anyway. Voting is a privilege, not a right.
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
    xmacro:
    JDH:
    It is easier and cheaper to get a US passport than a Pensylvania voter ID card. This is nothing more than a new form of Jim Crow, this time it's just aimed at Democrats of all colors instead of just black ones.
    If dems or anyone for that matter, are too dumb to produce a student id, drivers license, or their SS # and two utility bills, they shouldn't be voting anyway. Voting is a privilege, not a right.
    Exactly... To me it is no different then asking someone to register to vote. It's a step in the process of being a responsible citizen, not racism or prejudice in any way. Also...you only have to get an ID once...it's not a law to prevent someone from voting. I see no reason why any party whom might be adversely affected by this would not do everything in their power to offset it the temporary downside. It would quickly become a non issue once people get off their ass and get an ID. Asking an honorable citizen to get an ID ONCE so they can vote is a small price to pay for democracy. You don't like it...GTFO
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
    I'm curious....how many of you do not have an ID? I'm trying to think of anyone I know that doesn't.... I'm also trying to think of how anyone could get a job, car, house, apartment, bank account, or anything for that matter without one...
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    catfishbluezz:
    I'm curious....how many of you do not have an ID? I'm trying to think of anyone I know that doesn't.... I'm also trying to think of how anyone could get a job, car, house, apartment, bank account, or anything for that matter without one...
    some apts don't need an ID, if I already had my house and an account and a car and let my drivers license expire why would I need one? I mean sure most of those things you need an ID but if don't need one in every day life, YOU should have to be forced to buy/get one 90 days before an election when it was never an issue before? That doesn't make sense at all.
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
    You need an ID to buy alcohol, to buy cigars or cigarettes, to get a credit card, to cash a check. There's no excuse not to have some form of id, or at least be able to recite your social security number and provide two proofs of residence (ie - utility/cable/electric bills)
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
    phobicsquirrel:
    catfishbluezz:
    I'm curious....how many of you do not have an ID? I'm trying to think of anyone I know that doesn't.... I'm also trying to think of how anyone could get a job, car, house, apartment, bank account, or anything for that matter without one...
    some apts don't need an ID, if I already had my house and an account and a car and let my drivers license expire why would I need one? I mean sure most of those things you need an ID but if don't need one in every day life, YOU should have to be forced to buy/get one 90 days before an election when it was never an issue before? That doesn't make sense at all.
    Well then at that point I'd say the cost of freedom to vote is getting an ID...is that too much to ask if the 90 days wasn't an issue? You had to register to vote right? No one is forcing you to vote; thus, no one is forcing you to get an ID
  • webmostwebmost Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,131
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Voter fraud appears to be a very similar "tag line" then.
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    Vulchor:
    Voter fraud appears to be a very similar "tag line" then.
    I suspect there is also a bit of truth there.
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Thank you for talking down to me and resorting to name calling, certainly gives you credibility.
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
    You know full well I'm an attorney, and I've asked you on multiple occasions to stay out of my profession - you don't know what you're talking about with legal matters. You knew exactly what you were insinuating; save your selfrighteous antics for someone more naive.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Now you call me a liar, nice. Yes, I did know you an atty but I DID NOT think of that at the time. I dont truly care enough to remember your profession every time I post to you, nor do your "credentials" generally figure into my thought process on topics of political nature. Thats not me being rude btw, its the truth of the matter and I think your giving yourself a little too much credit to think I care or think that much about your profession-----even though you do like to tout it. Believe what you want, as Im sure you will-----but I swear on my own life an that of my loved ones I was not insinuating anything about you or meant to direct it at you. Read my post again perhaps without the personal defenses up or the feeling that every conversation about law or legal matters has to involve your degree.
  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
    Vulchor:
    -but I swear on my own life an that of my loved ones I was not insinuating anything about you or meant to direct it at you.
    That's a bet I wouldn't take
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
    xmacro:
    Vulchor:
    -but I swear on my own life an that of my loved ones I was not insinuating anything about you or meant to direct it at you.
    That's a bet I wouldn't take
    Wow, Macro, really? If you are an attorney I would think you would have much better debating skills and certainly would not let yourself get so emotionally wrapped up in ANY subject as you would know how it can cloud your judgement. In this case you are guilty of everything you are accusing others of, and then even end with a snide remark after someone tries to clear up a statement you mistakenly took as a personal attack. WOW.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    xmacro:
    You know full well I'm an attorney, and I've asked you on multiple occasions to stay out of my profession - you don't know what you're talking about with legal matters. You knew exactly what you were insinuating; save your selfrighteous antics for someone more naive.
    --nevermind
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