Liga Privada Papas Fritas
OldBlueEyes2012
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Just did a little bit of reading on this stick, and from what I can see everyone seems to enjoy it. I know it's made with No.9 short cuts, but that's fine because the No.9 is one of my favorite sticks. Looked like a pretty nice smoke, and was just curious if anyone had tried one.
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Gonna go smoke an undercrown,,,,
If you like the LP9, I wouldn't hesitate to get at least a tin of them to try...especially for these winter months where a short smoke can come in handy!
http://www.cigar.com/cs/forums/thread/564752.aspx
It's hard for me to understand why a manufacturer would sell short-filler for such a pretty penny. I understand it's LP trimmings, but it's still short filler. Other manufacturers sell short filler cigars, but they do so at a much lower price point.
I don't know, I'm going to try them - since I like most other DE cigars, and I also like this size. But still, it was hard for me to justify the price for a short filler cigar.
I went ahead and got a box and smoked it last week and really enjoyed it. It had all the LP taste that I enjoy and if I didnt know it was a short filler, I would have never known.
Here is a post from Steve Saka about the Papas Fitas
I understand it... there is a huge justifiable bias against short filler - most are machine made, most are made with so-so tobacco and even those handmade are almost always sloppy construction wise and very inconsistent in flavor.
It is a huge hurdle for us to introduce a cigar like this into the marketplace and particularly under the LP moniker. Why would anyone in their right mind make a $6 version of a cigar brand that sells for $12 and are nearly impossible to keep in stock?
But we have a history of doing things the hard way...
Think about it...
DE is the company the created the entire infused premium genre while every "expert" predicted its utter failure.
DE is the company that then had to overcome it success in the infused segment to convince cigar consumers it was capable of making not only traditional cigars, but exceptional traditional cigars.
And here DE is trying to get consumers to enjoy a PREMIUM TRIPA CORTA - it is an oxymoron, but I believe that the Papas Fritas is demonstrating what is possible if someone is willing to make the effort.
If it turns out the Papas Fritas sells well, I bet you will set quite a few other companies releasing their own like product.
Just food for thought... think about it in the terms of perfectly cooked, sizzling aged bone-in ribeye... is the steak any less delicious when you cut off a bite with your knife and fork? Wouldn't that be short filler steak?
This is exactly what is happening when we chaveta cut the liga privada leaf...
Ultimately people will have to decide on their own whether Papas Fritas was a good idea, a good cigar and/or a reasonable value for themselves.
I suspect some people will agree with my viewpoint and I suspect some people will think I am an idiot, gouger, f'ckwad...
And I wouldn't have it any other way!!!
Happy New Year mi Amigos!
BR,
Steve
long filler is the "premium" not just because quality tobacco is used. long filler is considered premium because it adds a level of complexity over the course of the cigar that short filler cannot ever achieve (due to nutrient distribution in the leaf). when you cut off a bit of steak it is way more uniform than one part of tobacco leaf to the other. Steak is not by nature complex over an area the way tobacco is. short filler homogenizes the different parts and you get the overall flavor but none of the refinement and complexity. i agree with that.
i feel that the stress of "being on the top" may be getting to LP and DE. a few years back when they were still growing and still trying to get to the top the quality was there. it had to be there because they had to build the reputation. they were building demand still. they couldnt keep up with the demand and part of this was because of the quality product they were producing. so they found ways to up production. then about 18 or so months back rumors of issues with cigars started to show up. a stick in the filler here, a hard draw there, an occasional cracking wrapper while being smoked. Hardly a forum exists where there arent pictures of LP problems. it may all be "growing pains" but it really does effect the view people have of the company considering the price ($10- $15) and availability of the cigars. I can get a cigar that will never let me down at that price or cheaper; plus i know that they will almost never be sold out (Dvidoff, Avo, Camacho, My Father Le Bijou, JdN Celebracion, etc...). People really do take all that into consideration.
so when DE, a company that has some cracks painfully showing, releases a sort filler cigar and then markets it as the same quality (and price) as a long filler...
i can see why there is hesitation.
the real question is:
will the hype keep the DE fans coming back or will surfacing issues, short filler, price point, and availability scare people off?
i hesitate.
...and i like DE.