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Alex Svenson
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I always find this little fact interesting and many people are surprised to hear it too.
Today, the terms torpedo, belicoso and pyramid are used interchangeably. This was not always the case but rather changed mainly in the 1990's and manufacturers started calling all cigars that taper to one end and come to a point the same thing. However, prior to the 1990's, here is what the sizes really were. Each was different:
Torpedo - The size people call a perfecto today was actually called a torpedo first. Think of the Gurkha Centurian or La Aurora Preferidos. These were named torpedos on account of their shape as they actually looked like a torpedo, tapering on both sides and reaching its maximum thickiness in the middle of the body.
Belicoso - a cigar with strait and paralel sides similar to todays parejo on standard shaped cigar. The ring or diameter does not taper but it does have a pointed head similar to todays torpdo in place a rounded head. I cant think of any real cigars that are still made in this traditional shape, but the original Cusano Corojo 96 and 97 Corona was actually a belicoso if that helps.
Pyramid - This was the official size of the cigar that people now refer to as torpedo or belicoso or still pyramid. think Montecristo No. 2, Diesel Unholy Cocktail etc.
Sometimes I wish we could go back in time to before things with cigars become over complicated, when maduro wrappers were not always dark, a Belicoso was a belicoso and it didnt matter if you tasted the "hints of anise" or "floral notes" in your cigar when making your tasting notes but you could just say, "this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL. Anyway, a little rant and some trivia for you guys.
Today, the terms torpedo, belicoso and pyramid are used interchangeably. This was not always the case but rather changed mainly in the 1990's and manufacturers started calling all cigars that taper to one end and come to a point the same thing. However, prior to the 1990's, here is what the sizes really were. Each was different:
Torpedo - The size people call a perfecto today was actually called a torpedo first. Think of the Gurkha Centurian or La Aurora Preferidos. These were named torpedos on account of their shape as they actually looked like a torpedo, tapering on both sides and reaching its maximum thickiness in the middle of the body.
Belicoso - a cigar with strait and paralel sides similar to todays parejo on standard shaped cigar. The ring or diameter does not taper but it does have a pointed head similar to todays torpdo in place a rounded head. I cant think of any real cigars that are still made in this traditional shape, but the original Cusano Corojo 96 and 97 Corona was actually a belicoso if that helps.
Pyramid - This was the official size of the cigar that people now refer to as torpedo or belicoso or still pyramid. think Montecristo No. 2, Diesel Unholy Cocktail etc.
Sometimes I wish we could go back in time to before things with cigars become over complicated, when maduro wrappers were not always dark, a Belicoso was a belicoso and it didnt matter if you tasted the "hints of anise" or "floral notes" in your cigar when making your tasting notes but you could just say, "this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL. Anyway, a little rant and some trivia for you guys.
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The more you know... *star wave*
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Alex Svenson BlogAdministrator, Everyone, ForumsAdministrator, Moderator, Owners, Registered Users Posts: 1,204
LOLHayblet:The more you know... *star wave* -
I swear Alex has been reading my tastings notebook. It is either the above statement or "I don't like it" in my tasting book. My tasting book is all in my head also; easy and simple.Alex Svenson:when making your tasting notes but you could just say, "this is just a good fucking cigar" -
LOL, Spence...don't know why...but Timer popped into my head when I read this...you know...that yellow guy that was on saturday morning cartoons..."I'm hankering for a hunka cheese..."Hayblet:The more you know... *star wave*
yes...I know...I am an odd man. -
That's about my system. Sometimes a note of something will present itself so strongly that I can't help but notice it, but mostly a cigar is great, very good, good or not good. Taking notes ruins my enjoyment...I'll just smoke the cigar, and the guy who thinks it matters can analyze it to death.bandyt09:
I swear Alex has been reading my tastings notebook. It is either the above statement or "I don't like it" in my tasting book. My tasting book is all in my head also; easy and simple.Alex Svenson:when making your tasting notes but you could just say, "this is just a good fucking cigar" -
Alex Svenson:"this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL.
This is about the extent of my palate. -
+1.JCizzle:Alex Svenson:"this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL.
This is about the extent of my palate.
Let's go back to when sticks where either good or they weren't. Let's get away from the gimmicks of marketing and just focus on what tastes great. I love the Tat Red and Tat Black, don't need a coffin shaped box to like them any more than I already do. I love the Anejo. It looks like nothing special and kicks ass. -
But then that gets into the problem of tastes - I hate spice, and generally avoid cigars that have it, while others go crazy for it. What I hate, a lot of you guys will love
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Krieg:that yellow guy that was on saturday morning cartoons..."I'm hankering for a hunka cheese..."
sunuvabitch......got that stuck in my head now..... -
That's kinda how the Diesel d.xs are; a simple band on the foot, which you must remove to light the stick, and all you're left with is a plain-looking stick that is very good.dennisking:
+1.JCizzle:Alex Svenson:"this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL.
This is about the extent of my palate.
Let's go back to when sticks where either good or they weren't. Let's get away from the gimmicks of marketing and just focus on what tastes great. I love the Tat Red and Tat Black, don't need a coffin shaped box to like them any more than I already do. I love the Anejo. It looks like nothing special and kicks ass. -
i remember you telling me that once before a looooooong time ago.
i guess time changes everything in every industry....
everyone misses the good ole days...
i kinda do as well.
if i am not mistaken the JdN belicoso is this classic shape... id have to have one in my hands to know for sure...Alex Svenson:Belicoso - a cigar with strait and paralel sides similar to todays parejo on standard shaped cigar. The ring or diameter does not taper but it does have a pointed head similar to todays torpdo in place a rounded head. I cant think of any real cigars that are still made in this traditional shape, but the original Cusano Corojo 96 and 97 Corona was actually a belicoso if that helps.
btw... any Cusano Corojo 96s left at ccom? -
me too! I'm not classy enough to do much but say this stick kicks a$$ or this stick sucks...loldennisking:
+1JCizzle:Alex Svenson:"this is just a good fucking cigar" LOL.
This is about the extent of my palate. -
Thanks for the info!
This is a constant learning process.
