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kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471

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  • denniskingdennisking Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,681
    I def. have no problems with legal marijuana. It's legal here in Oregon for medicinal usage and it's pretty damn easy to get the "green card". I don't see why the least addicting of the taboo substances isn't legal. If alcohol is legal, then pot should be as well. No one ever got stoned and beat the crap out of his wife and kids. And don't get me started on "Gateway Drug" BS. Alcohol is a gateway drug, TV is a gateway drug, stupidity is a gateway drug. I've smoked a lot of pot in my day and I quit when I had kids. I can say that I've never done coke, heroin, pcp, lsd, shrooms, meth, or anything else but marijuana and hash. Stupid people are going to find a way to do whatever they want no matter the reason.
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    I do like the fact that there will be a $50 dollar tax that will be used to fund drug eratication. That seems a little self defeating.
  • denniskingdennisking Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,681
    kaspera79:
    I do like the fact that there will be a $50 dollar tax that will be used to fund drug eratication. That seems a little self defeating.
    hopefully to fight the meth epidemic
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    I guess that makes sense to some degree..
  • stephen_hannibalstephen_hannibal Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,317
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    So many people here in CA smoke pot as it is, they may as well legalize and regulate it thereby generating some tax money from it. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em...and tax 'em. I don't know, I'm kinda whatever on the whole thing, I don't smoke pot, didn't care for it the half dozen times I did, and probably wouldn't be looking to spark up a doobie if it got legalized...so, yeah.
  • nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 720
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    If it were to be legalized, I don't think it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol and tobacco are. Of course I don't think alcohol and tobacco should be taxed like they are... We all complain about the taxes on cigars because we smoke them, but when it comes to pot, if it is legalized everyone things it should be taxed heavily just because you don't smoke it... That seem a bit hypocritical to me...
  • KriegKrieg Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,068
    I think it should be legalized. Prisons are at capacity and I really think a non-violent person who got busted with a couple of joints doesn't deserve to go to the big house when we got worse people out there. Also, if it were legalized, the profits of drug lords and a ton of crime would dry up.
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    PuroFreak:
    If it were to be legalized, I don't think it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol and tobacco are. Of course I don't think alcohol and tobacco should be taxed like they are... We all complain about the taxes on cigars because we smoke them, but when it comes to pot, if it is legalized everyone things it should be taxed heavily just because you don't smoke it... That seem a bit hypocritical to me...
    Well Jason, my stance on it is that I really don't care one way or the other, applied to everything about, whether it gets legalized, whether it gets taxed and if so how heavily. The reality of it is that if marijuana gets legalized, chances are pretty good it will be taxed, that's just the way it goes. Do I think it should be taxed heavily simply because I don't use it? No, not really, but I'm not opposed to it being taxed either, so I don't feel my stance is hypocritical, just realistic.
  • denniskingdennisking Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,681
    Krieg:
    I think it should be legalized. Prisons are at capacity and I really think a non-violent person who got busted with a couple of joints doesn't deserve to go to the big house when we got worse people out there. Also, if it were legalized, the profits of drug lords and a ton of crime would dry up.
    prisons in oregon aren't filled with dudes with a couple joints. it's only an offense when it's less than under an ounce. over is intent to distribute and even then it's minimal time
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    j0z3r:
    PuroFreak:
    If it were to be legalized, I don't think it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol and tobacco are. Of course I don't think alcohol and tobacco should be taxed like they are... We all complain about the taxes on cigars because we smoke them, but when it comes to pot, if it is legalized everyone things it should be taxed heavily just because you don't smoke it... That seem a bit hypocritical to me...
    Well Jason, my stance on it is that I really don't care one way or the other, applied to everything about, whether it gets legalized, whether it gets taxed and if so how heavily. The reality of it is that if marijuana gets legalized, chances are pretty good it will be taxed, that's just the way it goes. Do I think it should be taxed heavily simply because I don't use it? No, not really, but I'm not opposed to it being taxed either, so I don't feel my stance is hypocritical, just realistic.
    I understand ya Joe, I wasn't directing that at you or your comments but towards people who say it should be taxed heavily. I'm just sick of the government stepping in and taxing alcohol and tobacco and everyting else that is seen as not fitting in with how "they" feel people should live. Then they always claim it's for some great cause and say sh*t like "it's for education" or for "our children," when in reality it isn't anything more than another way for them to line their pockets and control the people of this country.
  • cabinetmakercabinetmaker Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,561
    If Texas were to legalize it, I'd start growing it.... again...
  • FourtotheflushFourtotheflush Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,555
    I say legalize it and tax it very similar to tobacco. Huge upside on this. Frees up a huge amount of tax dollars in our jails and will generate tax revenues.
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    PuroFreak:
    j0z3r:
    PuroFreak:
    If it were to be legalized, I don't think it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol and tobacco are. Of course I don't think alcohol and tobacco should be taxed like they are... We all complain about the taxes on cigars because we smoke them, but when it comes to pot, if it is legalized everyone things it should be taxed heavily just because you don't smoke it... That seem a bit hypocritical to me...
    Well Jason, my stance on it is that I really don't care one way or the other, applied to everything about, whether it gets legalized, whether it gets taxed and if so how heavily. The reality of it is that if marijuana gets legalized, chances are pretty good it will be taxed, that's just the way it goes. Do I think it should be taxed heavily simply because I don't use it? No, not really, but I'm not opposed to it being taxed either, so I don't feel my stance is hypocritical, just realistic.
    I understand ya Joe, I wasn't directing that at you or your comments but towards people who say it should be taxed heavily. I'm just sick of the government stepping in and taxing alcohol and tobacco and everyting else that is seen as not fitting in with how "they" feel people should live. Then they always claim it's for some great cause and say sh*t like "it's for education" or for "our children," when in reality it isn't anything more than another way for them to line their pockets and control the people of this country.
    I didn't think that was so much directed at me, just clarifying what I had said before. I don't agree with how aggressively the government taxes certain "vices" or "luxuries", however they might refer to it and I'd love to see the day when tobacco and alcohol have little tax on them...it just makes it more difficult for the consumer to partake in what they enjoy.
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Legalize and tax like the rest of our "vices". Make sure you can sell the good stuff though, or else potheads will still look to the streets for stronger stuff. Problem with touching this issue is the "war on drugs, drugs are bad, etc" we have heard our entire lives and the older population FIRMLY believes. So long as they are around and feel that way...AND are the largest % of voters------stuck we are.
  • nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 720
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • nightmaremike31nightmaremike31 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 720
  • LasabarLasabar Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,457
    cabinetmaker:
    If Texas were to legalize it, I'd start growing it.... again...
    Welp, this thread just got flagged by the government.
  • clearlysuspectclearlysuspect Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,750
    We have this discussion at work all the time and for me, where I work, it really wouldn't matter. I still wouldn't be able to smoke it at all because my employer would still test me for it. Being an aircraft mechanic and working on government owned military planes, any time a mishap happens, something is broken, first thing that happens is the entire crew working on the plane gets sent for a urinalysis. And, with the way THC stores itself for prolonged periods of time in the fat cells and does not disipate quickly from the blood stream like alcohol does, they can't determine whether I smoked it at the beginning of my shift or 3 days ago. So even if it was legalized, I still wouldn't be able to partake without fear of losing my job.
  • KriegKrieg Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,068
    dennisking:
    Krieg:
    I think it should be legalized. Prisons are at capacity and I really think a non-violent person who got busted with a couple of joints doesn't deserve to go to the big house when we got worse people out there. Also, if it were legalized, the profits of drug lords and a ton of crime would dry up.
    prisons in oregon aren't filled with dudes with a couple joints. it's only an offense when it's less than under an ounce. over is intent to distribute and even then it's minimal time
    Yes, I understand this...it was more used as a figure of speech...but I'm sure you get the point (I hope)
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    Lasabar:
    cabinetmaker:
    If Texas were to legalize it, I'd start growing it.... again...
    Welp, this thread just got flagged by the government.
    as if it wasnt before.
  • FourtotheflushFourtotheflush Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,555
    kuzi16:
    Lasabar:
    cabinetmaker:
    If Texas were to legalize it, I'd start growing it.... again...
    Welp, this thread just got flagged by the government.
    as if it wasnt before.
    Help Im being dragged to GITMO!
  • stephen_hannibalstephen_hannibal Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,317
    Fourtotheflush:
    kuzi16:
    Lasabar:
    cabinetmaker:
    If Texas were to legalize it, I'd start growing it.... again...
    Welp, this thread just got flagged by the government.
    as if it wasnt before.
    Help Im being dragged to GITMO!
    Tell them you're a republican and you'll be fine.
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