Aging

madurofan

Smoke=Fire

Wow - very insightful post, Maddy. I can see what the gentleman was talking about. Thanks for posting that, bud!

dutyje

Interesting, maddy.. and it all makes perfect sense. Now, QUICK everybody... immediately smoke down one of everything in your inventory that you haven't tried yet! Otherwise you'll never know the true essence of that cigar! For me, that means I've got to get out and smoke 7 cigars.

madurofan

I did as well smoke thats why I wanted to throw it out there for everyone.

dutyje:

Interesting, maddy.. and it all makes perfect sense. Now, QUICK everybody... immediately smoke down one of everything in your inventory that you haven't tried yet! Otherwise you'll never know the true essence of that cigar! For me, that means I've got to get out and smoke 7 cigars.

Such a smart-ass don't make me come down there a slap you upside the head right in front of Water Pillows.

dutyje

madurofan:

in front of Water Pillows.

LMAO!!

kuzi16

madurofan

kuzi16

madurofan

madurofan

I'm not pretending to know here as I sure as hell am not a scientist but that made me think.

DiasFlak

i like this nice thread !

dutyje

DiasFlak

madurofan

madurofan

dutyje

I'll also throw this out -- if two cigars are sitting next to each other, or one on top of the other -- you've not got a situation where it's cigar touching cellophane touching cellophane touching another cigar. Perhaps it is possible for the oils exchange in this manner, and not strictly through the air.

madurofan

Thats in my line of thought duty. As well as the curiousity as to whether or not oils can and or do transfer through the air, idk?!?

dutyje

My guess is that the fragrance does transfer, and the logic is simple. When you are smelling something, you are actually sensing tiny particles of the matter that is being smelled. For example, when you smell a dog turd, that is because microscopic turd particles have made their way to the sensory receptors in your nose. Therefore, these same particles could make their way to a neighboring cigar, or one on the other side of the humidor. Considering the nose is the primary organ we use for taste, it would then become easy to see how storing two different cigars together could cause their individual tastes to slowly blend over time.

madurofan

dutyje:

My guess is that the fragrance does transfer, and the logic is simple. When you are smelling something, you are actually sensing tiny particles of the matter that is being smelled. For example, when you smell a dog turd, that is because microscopic turd particles have made their way to the sensory receptors in your nose. Therefore, these same particles could make their way to a neighboring cigar, or one on the other side of the humidor. Considering the nose is the primary organ we use for taste, it would then become easy to see how storing two different cigars together could cause their individual tastes to slowly blend over time.

Dude I knew we were keeping you around for a good reason! I like it, its scientific and everything.

kuzi16

urbino

DiasFlak

well cello is pores atleast i believe. but i would think when the oils crystallize on the cello it would help keep those oils and aromas in. sorry just a random thought

kuzi16

pilot711

Capt

I had to go back to the original post, and re-read, and read, and read, and read again. This post will only include non-Cuban cigars, as this seems to be what we are talking about. Here are my thoughts, and actual aging trials I have done. I have probably 40 plus boxes right now that are atleast 3 years old. At one time I had close to 70, but as I have said before, I had to sell alot. I have probably close to 400 loose sticks, which I will not even bring into this post. I have noticed some cigars brands are ready to smoke out of the box. But VERY few. Some benefit from a month, some 6, some years. I have had some sticks which I have aged past their prime, and I was devistated by doing this. Trial and error. As I have said before, if I like a certain cigar, I will buy a box or so, and start to age them. To me, little happens the first year. After that, I will smoke one, usually every 5-6 months, as aging is a VERY slow process. Once I find it is coming around, such as loosing that amonia smell from the fermentation process, finish is rounding out and not sharp, loosing the bite, and the flavors marry vs. fighting each other for center stage on the palate. Do I think cigar singles will transfuse flavors with each other? Not enough to notice. Some cigars I have aged PAST their prime are, Griffin's limited Edition, Partagas Decades, LaAurora Sapphires, and a few others I don't remember at this time. For those who think I am full of it, and some of you may, whom ever I sent the Gurkha Legend to from 2005 or 2006 (don't remeber the exact one I sent you) smoke it with a Legend off the shelf. You'll be pleasantly suprised. Cigars that have benefited: Padron 1926 #6 Maduro from 2004. These cigars are unbelievable. I have only smoked two out of the box, because I know once they are gone, they are gone for good. Another is the original blend of the VSG. Phenominal cigar now. Most Gurkha's are great with a few years on them. I have a few boxes of the old Bolivar blend aging from 1993, and it's nothing like the original. OpusX, I have a box from about 8 years ago, but since I have no date, it's hard to tell. Fuente Anejo Sharks, totally different cigar, one of my favorites. Last, a box of Fuente Best Seller Hemingway's from 2003. For those who want to taste a REAL aged Cameroon, this cigar really shows what a Cameroon is supposed to taste like, without the filler/binder overriding it. So we can debate this all day long if we have no baseline to compare to. I do, and this is what I have found from it, first hand. Other cigars I know will be good in a few years is the Nub, and the 3 Siglos. The Nub is too sharp, and too young. Some will disagree, but until any of us smoke an aged one, we won't know. The 3 Siglo's will be one of the best cigars to come, and I won't be suprised if it makes it in CA's top 25 cigars of the year. Thats why I plan on ordering a few boxes, and I would urge you to do the same. If you don't like them after aging, I will gladly buy them from you.

kuzi16

DiasFlak

ok i have two legend perfectos should i age them both?

Lasabar

kuzi16

i never age all of a cigar that i have. age one. smoke the other.

Lasabar

Lasabar