Daily Deal Arguement

betasynn

Can we just move all the name calling and stuff here?

Vulchor

LOL, good call Beta. While I do understand the feelings by some that we care hopelessly devoted to cigar.com, to get these sticks----and at least 2 (which is a low ball estimate) that are hard to find and always pricey, it really is a good deal. You can do em cheaper individually, but as a pack to try new stuff, or have high end sticks for occasions on hand, or as a gift----Cmon how can people complain.

ormondefg

betasynn:

Can we just move all the name calling and stuff here?

  Ok then.....I couldn't resist.  Let me sum it up quickly:  1) The deals on here are like deals on many other sites....well, really just a couple of other sites.  The deals are sometimes great (such as the MOW Ruination #2, and the Oliva V deals recently), and sometimes not so great in price, but rather in offering (such as today's deal).  IMHO the deal isn't great for price, as I could piece it together for less than $10 more than what the price is today.  Granted, I would have to find 9 other buddies that want to do it as well, because some of the deals I would be buying to put it together come in 10 packs.  But, it could be done.  As for the cigars, and the offer itself, it is a very premium offering....of such high quality that I have not seen offered anywhere else.....EVER!  That in itself is awesome, to say the least.  Somewhere along the message board, some narrow sighted individuals decided to take things out of context, take things personal, and post replies as if I was attacking CCom.  That could not be farther from accurate, regarding the content of my posts.  What I stated is that RoyalCigars made a valid point in his assessment of value (though one would be hard pressed to be able to even put together this particular sampler, at least without having many others to go in on the deal with him/her).  Regardless of whether RoyalCigar has 5 posts, or 5000 posts, really matters not.  The launch of personal attacks by some on here, and their argument that he is not allowed to comment because he only has 5 posts, did not sit well with me.  I only have 30 or so posts myself, yet some moron on here is convinced that I am in the cigar business because, as he put it, of my vast knowledge of cigars.  Case in point....you do not have to have 2155 posts to know what you are talking about!  Anyways, I enjoy "slighting", if you will, lesser apt aggressive individuals that deserve the public flogging.  Maybe that is a character flaw I have, but I enjoy it nonetheless.  Therefore, I don't intend to stop anytime soon.  Maybe it is anger management therapy for me?  LOL  Whatever it is, I will continue to engage whenever I feel the desire to do so.  I do try to refrain from the name calling, but will not refrain from insulting those that have put themselves in a position for that, by insulting others themselves.  Bottom line >>>>  Today's deal is EPIC.....but as far as price point, it could have been $10 less and CCom still would have made money.  They may still sell many units, but would have sold many more at $40....or at least with free shipping offered on a 5 pack.  Do they need to do that?  Obviously not!  Could they have?  I suspect so.  Should they have?  I guess that is up to the consumer to decide for themselves.  Will I continue to shop here?  No doubt about it. 

nsezell

Holy SH!T!!! That's a big wall o text...there's no way I'm reading that thing...you must be a really bored dude. Go outside...and smoke.

Vulchor

betasynn

That's a well aggregated post, and I think it clears up some of the vagueness in previous posts. It's important to remember that nobody can really read tone through posts, it's a tough thing to do. I don't think it's fair to call people "lesser apt," especially just by using what they type in a single post (or string of posts.)

ormondefg

betasynn:

That's a well aggregated post, and I think it clears up some of the vagueness in previous posts. It's important to remember that nobody can really read tone through posts, it's a tough thing to do. I don't think it's fair to call people "lesser apt," especially just by using what they type in a single post (or string of posts.)

  Your point is well received.  "Lesser apt" was one of those "slights" I spoke of.  Come on though......considering how much time it took me to type all that, I was entitled to throw at least one out there.  LOL

TatuajeVI

holy wall of text, batman! line breaks are your friend!

TatuajeVI

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dennisking

WHAT!!!!! Are we seriously debating the value of the Daily Deal. Are you F'ing kidding me. We were asked what type of Daily Deals we would like to see about 2 months ago and they give us EXACTLY what we ask for and now there are complainers. SERIOUSLY?!?!?!? What the hell. The GOF is a grip of money. Go FIND a Camacho PE and see how much that costs ya. WOW. We ask for Chateau Briand and complain about the price.

betasynn

Still, the slights aren't really a good way to convey a valid point. Even if what you are saying is correct (and I actually disagree, I think you pay a bit extra for the convenience and the grouping they gave) people will not agree or honor your opinion if it comes off as condescending or rude. I understand that there is a measure of satisfaction gained from messing with people, but I guess I'm just trying to convey why people are so upset.

ormondefg

betasynn:

Still, the slights aren't really a good way to convey a valid point. Even if what you are saying is correct (and I actually disagree, I think you pay a bit extra for the convenience and the grouping they gave) people will not agree or honor your opinion if it comes off as condescending or rude. I understand that there is a measure of satisfaction gained from messing with people, but I guess I'm just trying to convey why people are so upset.

  I understand why they are upset.  That was kind of the point.  Tit for Tat, so to speak.  Like I said....maybe it's a character flaw.  LOL.  Also, you say you disagree, but I maybe i still did not explain my point clearly.....you are correct, putting together this 5 pack has value in itself.  It would take me time, organization, and further shipping costs (to get it to my 9 other buddies located around the world) to make this happen.  I was merely saying, seems like days ago now though, that RoyalCigar had a valid point when he stated his opinion on the price. 

Alex Williams

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robbyras

Get em' Alex!!!! Don't take no sh!t offa nobody....

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kaspera79

Wow guys. I thought the only place we were allowed to fight was in the Political Related Forums.

Alex Williams

kaspera79:

Wow guys. I thought the only place we were allowed to fight was in the Political Related Forums.

I take offense when some a$$hole attacks my friends. Yes laker, I consider you a friend, even though you are a canadian hahaha

ormondefg

Alex Williams:

kaspera79:

Wow guys. I thought the only place we were allowed to fight was in the Political Related Forums.

I take offense when some a$$hole attacks my friends. Yes laker, I consider you a friend, even though you are a canadian hahaha

At least be accurate. It wasn't I that attacked. In your mind, it must be ok for all of you and your fellow BOTL's to call people a$$holes.....but we aren't supposed to reply in kind huh?! Let's see.....stats show I have been called an a$$hole 3 or 4 times by you and your kind, a sarcast (sarcastic) little F'r, a teenager, and a few other choice words and names. I, on the other hand, have said a few things as well.....though they were a little more calculated and thought provoking (not all of them, but most of them). Nor have I resorted to childish name calling. Keep it coming though....it uncovers alot and says much about your character.

kaspera79

Alex Williams:

kaspera79:

Wow guys. I thought the only place we were allowed to fight was in the Political Related Forums.

I take offense when some a$$hole attacks my friends. Yes laker, I consider you a friend, even though you are a canadian hahaha

As do I Alex.. I enjoy spending time here with all of you, It is just too bad when we stray too far from the reason we are here. Let's all relax and talk about some fine cigars. I had a great Pete Johnson El Truinfador Lancero today that I got from one of you fine gents. It was fantastic and Thanks.

laker1963

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dennisking

I'm not stirring. and to get this back on track, I mentioned the insane value. just trying to steer people in the right direction. and for the record, Laker and I have a very storied past so yeah, I get to attack him. go ahead, ask him about the middle east, I dare you.

ormondefg

dennisking:

I'm not stirring. and to get this back on track, I mentioned the insane value. just trying to steer people in the right direction. and for the record, Laker and I have a very storied past so yeah, I get to attack him. go ahead, ask him about the middle east, I dare you.

Its all good

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laker1963

dennisking:

I'm not stirring. and to get this back on track, I mentioned the insane value. just trying to steer people in the right direction. and for the record, Laker and I have a very storied past so yeah, I get to attack him. go ahead, ask him about the middle east, I dare you.

Yup, ever since that "night" that we don't talk about here... Dennis and I are real tight. LOL.

dennisking