An ISOM what ifs

TheDuckofDeath

Diamondog

Nice rant.....no doubt some of the finest cigars in the world come from other countries other than Cuba but to dismiss Cuban cigars is ridculous, they are some of the finest in the world.....go smoke a Trinidad a Cohiba Siglo VI, Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill and tell me you aren't impressed lol...

phobicsquirrel

Good question, hard to really answer. I would say probably not a boom again but I think ISOM's would get some good sales. Though I wouldn't go out of my way to get a bunch as I can get them now and have had them (thanks to a special buddy here). Overall I've had some well known ISOM's and others that aren't too popular and really I have yet to be blown away. Though I can say the same about legal cigars now but I've had a lot of them and have found only a handful I really enjoy. So I guess I could say the same could be true of the cuban cigars. I think the embargo is really silly especially since we have open trade with China. But like everything that is illegal I think there would be a big surge on cubans but it would die down quickly.

phobicsquirrel

Diamondog:

Nice rant.....no doubt some of the finest cigars in the world come from other countries other than Cuba but to dismiss Cuban cigars is ridculous, they are some of the finest in the world.....go smoke a Trinidad a Cohiba Siglo VI, Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill and tell me you aren't impressed lol...

I agree, though I have had those you mentioned and thought they were okay but I personally wouldn't say they are better than say an Opus or GOF. Then again tastes are different. Now if they could be found cheaper than GOF's then I would definitely be stocking up.

fla-gypsy

Your observation about Cuban's is absolutely true. While they do still make some of the best in the world it is a limited number and many places now compete on a level field IMO. It would no doubt be a temporary boom but I believe it would be short lived among real BOTL's. It would also create an even bigger market in fakes IMO. The taste of an honest to goodness top Cohiba from Cuba is a treat but there are plenty of others from elsewhere that can hold their own with them. It is kind of like the perceived but undeserved quality difference in US and foriegn based car makers. The quality gap went away a number of years ago but the perception is still there although slowly dying off. 80% of comments about cigars made to me by non smokers is "is that a cuban?" They believe they are better, but ignorance is hard to change.

Tokinstogie

It really wouldn't matter to me one way or the other, I have no trouble getting cubes, but I have'nt desired one for some time. There's so many more I like and so many more I want to try. I quess they fall somewhere on the middle of my list.

YankeeMan

kaspera79

There are a few cubes (Nice new term), that I would seek out regularly once they become easily available, but I would not smoke every one I saw. They would probably be overpriced for a long time, until the novelty wore off.

xmacro

fla-gypsy:

It would no doubt be a temporary boom but I believe it would be short lived among real BOTL's.

How many real BOTL's are there? Really not that many. There are many more casual smoker's who see cubans as the be-all-and-end-all of cigars - since those are many more of these types, I think the day the embargo is lifted, not only will there be a surge of fakes, but prices for cubans will sky-rocket and stay high for years to come (even after a few years, the mark-up will still be large just because of the cuban myth that all cubans are inherently better)

The Cank

Well correct me if I am wrong but I don't think that Cuba could handle the market for the US if the embargo was lifted. So it would then be a bigger problem for all of us to get them.

xmacro

Yup - when demand exceeds supply, prices skyrocket. The US is one of the biggest consumers in the world, so even though cubans have been available to other countries, the demand from the US could swamp them. So we'll see a return to not only fakes, but rushed cigars (eg - cooking or coloring maduro)

bacon.jay

ljl

Duder2

sightunseen

fla-gypsy

+3 AJ would rock some Cuban tobacco with that Nicaraguan ligero and we could have some killer sticks.

kuzi16

phobicsquirrel

kuzi16

Hays

kuzi16