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  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
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  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    laker1963:
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
    Laker, only one party is in power, there is no shared power here. The Repubs are completely shut out, but I am fine with throwing them all out even though I know it will not happen. I long for a guy like Teddy Roosevelt!
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
  • cabinetmakercabinetmaker Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,561
    fla-gypsy:
    laker1963:
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
    Laker, only one party is in power, there is no shared power here. The Repubs are completely shut out, but I am fine with throwing them all out even though I know it will not happen. I long for a guy like Teddy Roosevelt!
    He's the one who started this whole mess we're in in the first place. It's not a republican/democrat issue; It's progressive/constitutionist issue. Teddy was a progressive and he paved the road we're currently on.
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    cabinetmaker:
    fla-gypsy:
    laker1963:
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
    Laker, only one party is in power, there is no shared power here. The Repubs are completely shut out, but I am fine with throwing them all out even though I know it will not happen. I long for a guy like Teddy Roosevelt!
    He's the one who started this whole mess we're in in the first place. It's not a republican/democrat issue; It's progressive/constitutionist issue. Teddy was a progressive and he paved the road we're currently on.
    While Teddy was a progressive as far as conservatives go, he was also a staunch lover of the "American Way", cared deeply about protecting our natural resources and exploiting them effectively to enrich it's citizens and took no crap from the two bit dictators around the world. He also spent his entire political career fighting corruption in govt. and generally followed a conservative approach to federal govt involvement in the lives of it's citizens. Perhaps your thinking more of Franklin as the one who took us down this road of expanding the federal govt into every facet of American life?
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    fla-gypsy:
    cabinetmaker:
    fla-gypsy:
    laker1963:
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
    Laker, only one party is in power, there is no shared power here. The Repubs are completely shut out, but I am fine with throwing them all out even though I know it will not happen. I long for a guy like Teddy Roosevelt!
    He's the one who started this whole mess we're in in the first place. It's not a republican/democrat issue; It's progressive/constitutionist issue. Teddy was a progressive and he paved the road we're currently on.
    While Teddy was a progressive as far as conservatives go, he was also a staunch lover of the "American Way", cared deeply about protecting our natural resources and exploiting them effectively to enrich it's citizens and took no crap from the two bit dictators around the world. He also spent his entire political career fighting corruption in govt. and generally followed a conservative approach to federal govt involvement in the lives of it's citizens. Perhaps your thinking more of Franklin as the one who took us down this road of expanding the federal govt into every facet of American life?
    Teddy did nowhere near as much damage as FDR... FDR is directly to blame for the growing government we are having to deal with today and has probably done more to damage our Democratic Republic than any President in history.
  • cabinetmakercabinetmaker Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,561
    PuroFreak:
    fla-gypsy:
    cabinetmaker:
    fla-gypsy:
    laker1963:
    fla-gypsy:
    The only way it can happen is through the ballot box and removing those currently in power. It is a tall order since the incumbent has all the advantages in this situation. Term limits for all would be a nice start but those in power will never go for it. It would take a grass roots effort to push forward such an amendment and it is not likely to happen. Armed revolution has already been tried and failed the only thing left is political revolt from the mainstream of Americans. Our current direction will only lead us down the European model which is failing miserably at this time.
    Are you speaking of "those currently in power" from both parties, or the current administration? Just for clarification.
    Laker, only one party is in power, there is no shared power here. The Repubs are completely shut out, but I am fine with throwing them all out even though I know it will not happen. I long for a guy like Teddy Roosevelt!
    He's the one who started this whole mess we're in in the first place. It's not a republican/democrat issue; It's progressive/constitutionist issue. Teddy was a progressive and he paved the road we're currently on.
    While Teddy was a progressive as far as conservatives go, he was also a staunch lover of the "American Way", cared deeply about protecting our natural resources and exploiting them effectively to enrich it's citizens and took no crap from the two bit dictators around the world. He also spent his entire political career fighting corruption in govt. and generally followed a conservative approach to federal govt involvement in the lives of it's citizens. Perhaps your thinking more of Franklin as the one who took us down this road of expanding the federal govt into every facet of American life?
    Teddy did nowhere near as much damage as FDR... FDR is directly to blame for the growing government we are having to deal with today and has probably done more to damage our Democratic Republic than any President in history.
    I agree FDR did more to harm this country than any other president in history (though the jury is still out on Obama) it was Teddy who got the ball rolling. That was my only point. If he were a constitutional conservative, we may very well be in much different position. I'm tired of having to choose the lesser of 2 evils; why can't we for once have a choice between the better of 2 goods?
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    I think this may be the first ever post (outside maybe of Glen Beck at his syphillis treatments) where Teddy R. and FDR were disucussed as being so negative. While i dont disgree with everything being said here, it almost seems like people sitting around during Washington or Lincolns life and saying how bad they were and they would prove to be the downfall of society.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    You have stated the leftist view very nicely phobicsquirrel. BTW no one on either side really thinks that business is looking out for the best interest of the people. That is the individual citizens responsibility in a free society. Business exists to create wealth for it's stockholders and employees, most business also are ethical in that approach but granted some are not. I work for a very large corporation and I have first hand experience with the ethics we are required to uphold in the production and shipment of our product. Any sort of impropriety will quickly get you dismissed from your job. Lumping all "Big Business" together is discriminatory at best, dishonest at worst. In the days of yesteryear when we truly had a capitalist economy there were many breaches of ethics. Our economy today is no longer truly capitalist, it is closer to a fascist economy. The problem I have with it all is some want to make it a socialist economy and that leads to nothing but mediocrity and subsistence. I enjoy a decent standard of living because of big business and appreciate what my labor has gained me through it. All big business is not bad, and some govt regulation is necessary to protect life/health. Criminal acts are criminal acts regardless of who commits them and those persons should be prosecuted to the full extent possible. But the show going on right now is just that, a show. 2 days after Katrina Bush was blamed for all the ills of a poorly prepared local and state govt who had jurisdiction over the situation, here, in federal waters, the Fed govt has done nothing in 30+ days to help the situation and all we get is press conferences and meetings with threats of prosecution. It is obvious that the Fed Govt had no plan of action to ever deal with this situation even though we paid a bunch of money for one that was already supposed to be in place. There will be plenty of time for finger pointing later, right now we need the Feds to get off their a$$ and let the states implement their own plans if the Feds don't have one and they clearly do not. Currently La wants to jump in and take some action and they are being held up by Federal permitting rules, now that is our federal govt and regulations in action.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Compassion and humanity=leftist......which must mean, greed and lack of ethics=????? I wont even go into what the teabaggers might be......Nice try squirrel, fight the good fight.
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    Vulchor:
    Compassion and humanity=leftist......which must mean, greed and lack of ethics=????? I wont even go into what the teabaggers might be......Nice try squirrel, fight the good fight.
    That is just an inflammatory bunch of sh!t and you know it. Most of us conservatives are fine with people doing anything they want as long as they don't infringe on us and don't expect us to pay for it. like Margaret Thatcher said" the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money". BTW, I am still waiting on a good definition of "greed", no real takers yet.
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