Also, did you just say that they are being held hostage? I was under the impression they wanted to be there...
That was a figure of speech. What would you refer to it as. They certainly cannot move around as they wish, they can't even use certain roads. They are also not allowed to come and go from the Gaza strip except on occassion with the proper paperwork and if they are fortunate enough to not run into a Border Gaurd who would rather harras and belittle them then let them pass. Yes, I would say that is being held hostage, what do you call it?
If "most, if not all" are starving, why have we not read this in the news? Where is the outpouring of support from Egypt, Iran, etc? Or the UN? As I stated, there are already relief efforts into the West Bank and Gaza, there is no humanitarian crisis that need a "peace flotilla." Israel warned them they would board them and confiscate the boat - they kept coming. It was DELIBERATE contact with Israel, and deliberately violent as we see from the video. What kind of peaceful group brings pipes, firebombs, knives, and a metal rods? THEY DON'T. Again, this was not meant to be peaceful, it was meant to be the first to break the blockade. If what I read is correct - and Israel is loosening the blockade, the "flotilla" served it's purpose: to loosen the blockade to allow secret weapons to be brought in. The secret tunnels Hamas uses to smuggle in weapons are not large enough - by boat is the next best option to get large weapons in.
Good point on the suicide bombings....and the trouble is that if Isreal started using the same tactics, the same peopel arguing for them now would say..."its about time, an eye for an eye is what they should be doing". Its so easy to say Palestinians and think all of them are the villians, the same way millions of Germans were grouped into being "Nazi's" during and after WWII. Those men and women were shunned, thrown out of countries, and sometimes killed or commit suicide because they happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time and their ideas and values were not taken into account. I AM CERTAIN, the same can be said about hundreds or thousands of Palestinians although we group them all as terrorists and demonize their desire to the same free state we made for Isreal.
I have to say that the only things that make the news are things that are either on video or many photos of it. News these days are not what they were 40 years ago... There wasn't much coverage on the BP spill until there were oil covered birds on film.
Regardless of how you feel the world came to be formed ( not wanting to step on any toes or start a religious debate) I find it amusing that mankind has decided to divide the land and seas into this is yours and this is mine and in the words of "the sniper" "I Keellllll You!" if you come here or go there. Just a musing but most cultures/peoples have a God or some Superior being they worship ... and somehow they feel its OK with their particular God to kill each other over a difference of opinion ... and yes it all boils down to a difference of opinion...it most cases the difference of opinion is my religion is correct and your an ignorant heathern ! Just sayin ...
Regardless of how you feel the world came to be formed ( not wanting to step on any toes or start a religious debate) I find it amusing that mankind has decided to divide the land and seas into this is yours and this is mine and in the words of "the sniper" "I Keellllll You!" if you come here or go there. Just a musing but most cultures/peoples have a God or some Superior being they worship ... and somehow they feel its OK with their particular God to kill each other over a difference of opinion ... and yes it all boils down to a difference of opinion...it most cases the difference of opinion is my religion is correct and your an ignorant heathern ! Just sayin ...
Well said Gene. Leave it to you to see right through the sh it and be able to grasp the reality of what is the core of this and many other conflicts. Well said sir, you have my utmost respect.
So as I watched the nightly news last night...and no not MSNBC, I see that a few of these citizens were killed by either being shot through the top the head while an Isreali repelled down----and another was shot 8 or 9 times. So unarmed civilians caused this much trouble to the Isrealis huh? So much they figured they ought to kill them before they ever boarded the ship...just to be on the safe side I guess.
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