I posted my mind on this @ my guild's forums and I think most of it would be bleeped here.... if you want to read what I posted lemme know as I am pretty irate at this.
I wish every religion would build a church at ground zero and all get along. To me it would be very symbolic for anyone to be able to go to ground zero and see churches of all faiths living in harmony. I am also a realist and realize this would probably never happen, but I myself have many different friends of all faiths and very much wish for everyone to be able to understand if not agree with eachother
I can't believe the people of NY would even consider it, I am sure it will become the 14th holiest site of that peace loving religion that tries to kill everybody. I would give you a good right wing view of it but there are some here who just can't stomach it.
I wish every religion would build a church at ground zero and all get along. To me it would be very symbolic for anyone to be able to go to ground zero and see churches of all faiths living in harmony. I am also a realist and realize this would probably never happen, but I myself have many different friends of all faiths and very much wish for everyone to be able to understand if not agree with eachother
I think there is already a mosque there. They are just rebuilding or making it bigger. I could have sworn I read that on a few articles. The news people just need a story to talk about.
kuzi, the "good muslims" are the ones killing people, and stoning girls that get raped. read their religious text, if you follow whats commanded in it, you would have to kill a lot of people for no good reason.
The devils advocate in me would like to make the...."freedom of choice, tolerance, openminded" argument here, but of all the area in and around ground zero combined with many other factors this is exactly why when white guys like me get on a plane and see (very likely a kind and law abiding) Muslim, I make sure Im ready to kill a man in hand to hand combat if needed. A phase I tend to hate rings true in my ears here "they do it to themselves".
The devils advocate in me would like to make the...."freedom of choice, tolerance, openminded" argument here, but of all the area in and around ground zero combined with many other factors this is exactly why when white guys like me get on a plane and see (very likely a kind and law abiding) Muslim, I make sure Im ready to kill a man in hand to hand combat if needed. A phase I tend to hate rings true in my ears here "they do it to themselves".
They do do it to themselves. I hate to sound prejudice against any religion, but c'mon. When an entire religious group makes international organizations that refuse to teach their people not to commit terrorist acts, but instead berate the rest of the world and call them "intolerant, Muslim-hating" infidels, something's wrong.
The devils advocate in me would like to make the...."freedom of choice, tolerance, openminded" argument here, but of all the area in and around ground zero combined with many other factors this is exactly why when white guys like me get on a plane and see (very likely a kind and law abiding) Muslim, I make sure Im ready to kill a man in hand to hand combat if needed. A phase I tend to hate rings true in my ears here "they do it to themselves".
They do do it to themselves. I hate to sound prejudice against any religion, but c'mon. When an entire religious group makes international organizations that refuse to teach their people not to commit terrorist acts, but instead berate the rest of the world and call them "intolerant, Muslim-hating" infidels, something's wrong.
LOL----- "do do"...........sorry wang, not making fun of your post----but I just cant pass up good poo related humor.
I build a lotta cabinets for a lotta local Pakistani doctors, all of whom are Muslim, and every one of them is an arrogant as$. White, black, Hispanic doctors - nice as can be. Muslim - peace-loving, Muhammad quoting, wife beating Muslims - assholes every one of them. Condescending, arrogant assholes. I'm sure there are good Muslims out there, somewhere, but I have not met one yet. And, like vulchor, when I'm around one I keep one eye on them and never let one get behind me.
What a lot of people, especially your average under-educated American (or bleeding heart apologist), forgets is that the Quran was written during a time of turmoil, bloodshed, and war. Later teachings were also added by extremist leaders that permitted lying about anything to infidels, killing infidels if they refused to convert, and even killing other Muslims that you felt you were more "Muslim" than. There are some peaceful Muslims. I've even met quite a few Muslims while I was in the Army and they are nothing short of faithful to their host country (except for that crazed Major that shot up a bunch of soldiers in Ft. Hood, thank God my friends there weren't shot). However, the Muslim community is one that teaches tolerance towards Muslims to the outside world, while trying to kill cartoonists that draw a picture of Muhammad or openly insulting their host country or suing for special rights in their host country (case in point: UK, France, US, Spain, and Italy)
kuzi, the "good muslims" are the ones killing people, and stoning girls that get raped. read their religious text, if you follow whats commanded in it, you would have to kill a lot of people for no good reason.
No, these aren't good muslims. Any more than the Spanish Inquisition was made up of good Christians, and yes, I've read their text. I've also read several versions of the Christian Bible, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, and we'd all be doing a lot of the same killing if we took it all literally. It is certainly tempting to believe that all muslims are the same as the Satan worshipers than executed the 9/11 attacks, poor Muhammed must be as disappointed as Christ was as the centuries passed and his "followers" killed, burned, raped, and worse anyone who didn't agree with them politically. Of course, I still find it the epitome of bad taste and poor judgement to erect a mosque on this site. Shame!
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