Thread for the "Liberals"

Vulchor

I dont consider myself one...but have been called one enough I figured might as well make a thread for the few of "us" here. Since many threads are decidely slanted to the right, "we" can keep all out ideas and political topics neatly packed into this one thread instead of topic by topic...which often get bashed. "We" will also use it as a place for some of "our" more irreveant and non sensical rants, so please do not take it all at 100 % gospel value (I added this after my first post) .All people are of course welcome to participate, just figured this would be a nice way for "us" to advance "our" agenda....LOL. Hope this turns out civil, I do not intend it be to otherwise.

Vulchor

Where were these anti-big-government "teabagger types"(or 'Tea Party Activists' if you would feel more comfortable) when the pres started a war without Congress? Where were they when the Patriot act allowed the gov't to tap phone lines w/o warrants? When president created a new class of prisoners w/o US or geneva code protections? Where were they when the modest budget surplus turned into massive deficit? And why do they keep taking SS and medicare--- "socialized" programs?

xmacro

xmacro

Vulchor

Vulchor

Also Macro, just thowing things and ideas out there. If no one takes them seriously...thats fine, if they do thats fine too. It may be a "your mother" on my part, but I have to mix a little sarcasm, sass, degeneracy, and humor into the debate because thats how my mind works and there is too much serious $hit going on we really have no control over to take it rationally and straightfaced all the time----on every side of the isle.

Jetmech_63

TatuajeVI

Amos Umwhat

Vulchor:

Where were these anti-big-government "teabagger types"(or 'Tea Party Activists' if you would feel more comfortable) when the pres started a war without Congress? Where were they when the Patriot act allowed the gov't to tap phone lines w/o warrants? When president created a new class of prisoners w/o US or geneva code protections? Where were they when the modest budget surplus turned into massive deficit? And why do they keep taking SS and medicare--- "socialized" programs?

Nice idea, (the thread/post/whatever you call these) I'm not sure where I fall out, conservatives think I'm Liberal, Liberal's think I'm conservative, I think there's too much finger pointing and not enough problem solving, but, in the spirit of this post, has anyone else noticed that when Bush was president Sean Hannity made daily comments that it was un-patriotic to criticize a sitting president during a time of war, (conflict/police action/nation building/oil revenue enhancement exercise), and now 90% of his daily rant consists of criticizing a sitting president during a time of war (et al)? Has to make you think, (at least, if you're capable of objective thought and not just a programmed drone who repeats daily talking points) doesn't it?

Vulchor

Vulchor

Vulchor

Amos Umwhat:

Vulchor:

Where were these anti-big-government "teabagger types"(or 'Tea Party Activists' if you would feel more comfortable) when the pres started a war without Congress? Where were they when the Patriot act allowed the gov't to tap phone lines w/o warrants? When president created a new class of prisoners w/o US or geneva code protections? Where were they when the modest budget surplus turned into massive deficit? And why do they keep taking SS and medicare--- "socialized" programs?

Nice idea, (the thread/post/whatever you call these) I'm not sure where I fall out, conservatives think I'm Liberal, Liberal's think I'm conservative, I think there's too much finger pointing and not enough problem solving, but, in the spirit of this post, has anyone else noticed that when Bush was president Sean Hannity made daily comments that it was un-patriotic to criticize a sitting president during a time of war, (conflict/police action/nation building/oil revenue enhancement exercise), and now 90% of his daily rant consists of criticizing a sitting president during a time of war (et al)? Has to make you think, (at least, if you're capable of objective thought and not just a programmed drone who repeats daily talking points) doesn't it?

Agreed totally, I will save my opinions on Mr. Hannity for another day however as it is too late in the day for me to suffer indigestion and the ensuing bowel troubles.

kuzi16

Theedge

Amos Umwhat

Vulchor

Vulchor

TatuajeVI

xmacro

Vulchor

Not looking or needing like minded anything Macro...as stated, I wouldnt get that here if I wanted.....unless of course I based Pelosi, or regulation, or the like. Cetainly not looking for reinforcment of ideas...plenty of others have a monopoly on that one. As far as the troll, thats really a matter of perspective. If I dont agree with what you and others say and find it useless, you are then said troll----but since my views are not echoed by the masses...that makes me the one. There is plenty of bashing and name calling of people here, politically I mean, by more than just me. Look at the hate and opinins on many of the right leaning posts. When I have my opinion, please dont blanket is as classless and mannerless simply because you may not like the view. I have been civil to everyone here and will continue to be so Macro, save perhaps the teabagger statement which is just a mockery at their name. If we go down that road, I could take equal offense to "obamacare" or the like, but I dont because viewpoints different than my own do not threaten or bother me...I welcome the freedom of thought and thought process.

Vulchor

This is true Tat, and I believe that is a part of the reason. I am only concerned at how long the "uncertainty" may last and at what point you go ahead and hire anyway. It seems like a possible slippery slope is all.

lilwing88

Vulchor:

I have been civil to everyone here and will continue to be so Macro, save perhaps the teabagger statement which is just a mockery at their name. If we go down that road, I could take equal offense to "obamacare" or the like, but I dont because viewpoints different than my own do not threaten or bother me...I welcome the freedom of thought and thought process.

I was enjoying the little volley going on between macro and vulch here and wasn't going to chime in until I read this little "rationalization". I never cared for the term "teabagger" to describe Tea Party activists. It's juvenile at best.......highly offensive and disgusting at it's worst. I would think that the so-called "intellectual left" could do better than to stoop to such levels. That being said, I don't see a parallel at all between "teabagger" and "obamacare"...... How exactly would one take offense to the term "obamacare"?

Vulchor

I personally find it more offensive than the term teabagger. It is directed at one person and done so with the sole hope that the plan will fail. Teabagger is listed not only as a sexual term for lowering ones testicles into anothers mouth...but also "a person who is unaware that they have said or done something foolish, childlike, noobish, lame, or inconvenient". Its up to you as to which you prefer to associate with the people or the party as a whole. Also, there has sure been alot of them wearing tea bags on their ears and such....but I dont see how thats offensive. I find a great deal of the people who support it offensive, but not my calling them something that describes them.

laker1963

lilwing88

lilwing88

lilwing88

Vulchor

jpclotfelter

I think it's great that the "Thread for the 'Liberals'" has turned into a conversation about testicles in a matter of hours.

lilwing88

Vulchor

jpclotfelter:

I think it's great that the "Thread for the 'Liberals'" has turned into a conversation about testicles in a matter of hours.

Lolllllllllllll.....now dats funny right dere.