Too Much Bureaucracy?

sightunseen

ljl

stephen_hannibal

wwhwang

jpclotfelter

Vulchor

I wish I knew even where to start answering this question, but I fear it would take days to name all the areas and research that would take me years. The first couple of things that come to mind to cut some funding for(not necessarily agencies or to kill it entirely) however are the D.A.R.E. program and the military/defense budget.

lilwing88

Vulchor

Hey Wing-----how bout you let me speak my peace this time chief and worry about your own posting, ok? I could get into the military industrial complex and how much of every dollar goes to defense and useless upgrades to keep the contractors happy if you woudl like---but just posting two things. I didnt say the list was all inclusive and am sorry you dont like my ideas not matching your's...Im one to have my own opinions thanks bro.

lilwing88

Oh c'mon, Vulch.... How could I resist? What? Bump, set but no spike? Where's the fun in that? BTW, I wasn't arguing your picks. I actually agree, to an extent.

Vulchor

Only because your from my hometown wing:)

PuroFreak

Vulchor:

I wish I knew even where to start answering this question, but I fear it would take days to name all the areas and research that would take me years. The first couple of things that come to mind to cut some funding for(not necessarily agencies or to kill it entirely) however are the D.A.R.E. program and the military/defense budget.

These are actually a couple that I agree with Vulch! Not the first places I would cut, but two that do need to be totally reworked. Of course the same applies for almost every single program the government has... This would be a very daunting task to take on and would take much more time than I have this afternoon...

Jdorais

I think a good starting point is to cut budget of THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT (yes, military too) by 1%.

sightunseen

Jdorais:

I think a good starting point is to cut budget of THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT (yes, military too) by 1%.

Haha, I almost missed the "1%" at the end of your sentence.

vegassparky

how about re-working taxes. make everyone pay 20%. no tax breaks. this has been a economic thought for years. number crunching shows that the gov. would be able to pay the national debt back., and all gov. ran programs would still be in good shape . if you look at what your paying now its alot more than 33% of your income. and if everyone paid the same precent we could save money by cutting half of the I.R.S out of the system. years ago this was a theory at 15%. 20% would pad it

wwestern

Any thing that's meant to redistribute wealth. (I know this is a lot at this point but that's as specific as it needs to be.)

sightunseen

vegassparky:

how about re-working taxes. make everyone pay 20%. no tax breaks. this has been a economic thought for years. number crunching shows that the gov. would be able to pay the national debt back., and all gov. ran programs would still be in good shape . if you look at what your paying now its alot more than 33% of your income. and if everyone paid the same precent we could save money by cutting half of the I.R.S out of the system. years ago this was a theory at 15%. 20% would pad it

A flat tax would be really simple, but I think it's a regressive tax that would put (relatively) poorer people at a higher disadvantage.

wwhwang

wwestern

vegassparky:

how about re-working taxes. make everyone pay 20%. no tax breaks. this has been a economic thought for years. number crunching shows that the gov. would be able to pay the national debt back., and all gov. ran programs would still be in good shape . if you look at what your paying now its alot more than 33% of your income. and if everyone paid the same precent we could save money by cutting half of the I.R.S out of the system. years ago this was a theory at 15%. 20% would pad it

How bout just stopping all tax refunds? Not that I don't like your idea it's just another thought.

sightunseen

vegassparky

this kind taxation helps the poor more. they pay more than 30 % now. what could you do with 10% more of your income. and then do away with tax returns. Rich people will make more jobs. they want to stay rich right. if you create jobs., then other people are working to make you money. actors and other famous people write public appearances off on there taxes ( i know. i run a non- profit orginization ) this is wrong no tax brakes. if you want to make a million, pay taxes for a million. yes giving money to non- profits does give tax brakes and i deal with it all the time. and some people only give for tax brakes. MY wife and I have a small business that she runs. I work a 40 + hour work week, thank god for that blessing, and we pay our taxes every years. i havent seen a return in 8 years. so what if i dont ever again. at least the poor and needy could keep alittle more money. alittle bit can go a long way with the right state of mind.

rossdavey2

lilwing88

cabinetmaker

Jdorais:

I think a good starting point is to cut budget of THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT (yes, military too) by 10%.

Fixed it for ya...

TatuajeVI

Jdorais:

I think a good starting point is to cut budget of THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT (yes, military too) by 1%.

heh. Try a larger %. The hilarious (well, actually it's horrible) thing is that while our economy is tanking, and tax revenue is so much lower than previous years, spending continue to increase Federally. States cannot borrow money, so they are forced to keep a budget and it shows - State spending and government programs are being slashed left and right. The Federal government needs to follow suit. Any intelligent CEO would cut, cut, cut from every corner of the Federal government - but they won't. Not with this administration and not with the previous one. With the next two election cycles, America needs to kick out EVERY long-term politician possible, and replace them with responsible politicians - unfortunately responsible politicians do not exist. As the saying goes, "All power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

wwhwang:

Not a program or agency, really, but I think Congress should be severely limited in its powers and rights. If the Constitution is a powerless joke anywhere in America, it's in Congress. They have the power to give themselves a pay raise (which they do every year), target specific groups for extra taxes and limitation of rights, divert tax dollars to whatever program they wish with no consequences, and destroy the economy by strangling companies with taxes, restrictions, and regulations so that no one hires anymore. In many ways, Congress is much more powerful than the President and the Supreme Court, since they can override presidential vetoes, shoot down programs or bills that the president wants, hinder the president's existing programs by cutting off funding and support, ignore the president altogether, and the supreme court doesn't rule against congress most of the time.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you. But, Congress was deliberately given more power constitutionally than any other branch by our Founding Fathers. The "power of the purse" is Congress's for a reason - to prevent an insane President from funding crazy programs. Unfortunately, our Constitution was written in a time of what I would call "Great Statesmen" who truly cared about our Country and truly wanted to make America better. I would venture to say that more if not all Americans cannot say that about our Senators and Representatives. Most are self-serving idiots, and strive to get reelected rather than actually make a difference.

Vulchor

Another way to cut money is to have more states start programs like the one theyre trying to kill (like morons) in Arizona. A lot less need for INS if we make deportation immediate and quick---no trial, its illegal for you to be here to start with. Also, insurance---trial---drivers license---they are all alot more expensive than "shoot on sight" when warned at the border to turn back immediately.

The Sniper

Vulchor

+1......and a plus 2 from the ghosts of the people at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

kuzi16

kuzi16

lilwing88

ljl