Bought my handgun

thehoff

Got a Sig 250 in 9mm. Comes with a full and carry frame. Thanks guys.

Hawk55

So I gather you're not a fan of Raceguns?

thehoff

Hawk55:

So I gather you're not a fan of Raceguns?

Nope.

roland_7707

Ruger has their new LCR ( light compace revolver) which shoots 38 special +p ammo and fits great in all hands. small fram allows for easy concealment, if you want to. but they have a great selection of wheel guns from small to large caliber.

One2gofst

Even with the Parameters you give it is still pretty wide open. Do you have a price range? If money really isn't a concern a custom 1911 is great fun. Another fun gun but not as pricey are Ruger Revolvers in .454 Casull, either the standard Super Redhawk or the Alaskan. They can also shoot .45 LC, which is a nice option to have. If you don't have a SA, those are fun too and there are plenty of choices. I'd personally go with Ruger just because their revolvers are so strongly built. None of these guns are good choices for carry, except possibly the 1911, but if you already have that covered they are all great choices depending on what YOU want.

TatuajeVI

wwestern

cholmes8310

For under $1500, you've got a lot of options. I personally like Kimber 1911's. My next purchase will be a Kimber Tactical .45. But also Para Ordnance makes a good gun, and you may be able to find Wilson Combat or Ed Brown 1911 customs for that price. Another option still is to get something like a Springfield Armory 1911. They sell base models and have an in-house custom shop with all kinds of upgrade options. I personally love the SA 1911 Trophy Match as it comes, and it can be found for your price.

wwestern

cholmes8310:

For under $1500, you've got a lot of options. I personally like Kimber 1911's. My next purchase will be a Kimber Tactical .45. But also Para Ordnance makes a good gun, and you may be able to find Wilson Combat or Ed Brown 1911 customs for that price. Another option still is to get something like a Springfield Armory 1911. They sell base models and have an in-house custom shop with all kinds of upgrade options. I personally love the SA 1911 Trophy Match as it comes, and it can be found for your price.

My buddy has a Trophy match and it cost him right at 1500 bucks not sure he got his money worth though....

cholmes8310

wwestern:

cholmes8310:

For under $1500, you've got a lot of options. I personally like Kimber 1911's. My next purchase will be a Kimber Tactical .45. But also Para Ordnance makes a good gun, and you may be able to find Wilson Combat or Ed Brown 1911 customs for that price. Another option still is to get something like a Springfield Armory 1911. They sell base models and have an in-house custom shop with all kinds of upgrade options. I personally love the SA 1911 Trophy Match as it comes, and it can be found for your price.

My buddy has a Trophy match and it cost him right at 1500 bucks not sure he got his money worth though....

I've only shot one, and it was great. I loved it, and it was a tack driver. I still prefer the Kimber, and for $700 less, that's what I'm planning on getting.

zoom6zoom

If you like wheelguns, I don't think any collection is complete without a S&W model 19. Preferably a -4 or earlier model.

vegassparky

One gun you should look at. its a revolver. it is perfect for self defense. and can be bought new for around $500 bucks. check out the JUDGE from taurus. i have one and i love it. its alittle on the heavy side. but it cant be out done. it shoots .45 or .410 shotshells. it holds 5 rounds. i alternate 45 and 410 in mine. it is a awesome piece check it out.

zoom6zoom

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

One2gofst

zoom6zoom:

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

I've told so many people how the Judge is a poor weapon for anything besides goofing around, yet people still want to believe it is the be all, end all of handguns. So now, I just let them.

Alex Williams

One2gofst:

zoom6zoom:

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

I've told so many people how the Judge is a poor weapon for anything besides goofing around, yet people still want to believe it is the be all, end all of handguns. So now, I just let them.

would it be a good snake gun? just one to put 410 shells in and carry while im in the woods

cholmes8310

Alex Williams:

One2gofst:

zoom6zoom:

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

I've told so many people how the Judge is a poor weapon for anything besides goofing around, yet people still want to believe it is the be all, end all of handguns. So now, I just let them.

would it be a good snake gun? just one to put 410 shells in and carry while im in the woods

that's the only reason I carry one. The ONLY reason. Not mine, but a friends. He let's me borrow it during bow season.

jihiggs

I like the idea of the judge, shoots .45 for when you really need it, but can shoot 410 for screwing around. they say its not good for anything but what is that based on? I just want something to greet unexpected visitors at the door with instead of a bat and that thing looks pretty mean.

cholmes8310

jihiggs:

I like the idea of the judge, shoots .45 for when you really need it, but can shoot 410 for screwing around. they say its not good for anything but what is that based on? I just want something to greet unexpected visitors at the door with instead of a bat and that thing looks pretty mean.

yeah, but a youth Remington 870 12guage is only like $300 at most, and it's a lot more intimidating and packs a lot more punch. That is my home protection gun.

vegassparky

dont hate the gun. i hit 6 inch targets at 100 yards with my judge loaded with 45's. that gun shoots just as good as any other 45 on the market. and i am a solid ruger fan. it is a great snake gun. it is a great self defense gun. if people are dumb enough to keep coming to you after letting a .410 shell loose., than they deserve a .45. end game. yes it is alittle bulky. AND everyone in the gun industry is loving on this idea for a beginner hand gun for self defense. it cant be matched in self defense, period.

One2gofst

vegassparky:

AND everyone in the gun industry is loving on this idea for a beginner hand gun for self defense. it cant be matched in self defense, period.

LOL, see what I mean. It's the greatest weapon ever invented. That and it's a great idea for a beginner handgun shooter to start out with a .45LC. Right.

One2gofst

Alex Williams:

One2gofst:

zoom6zoom:

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

I've told so many people how the Judge is a poor weapon for anything besides goofing around, yet people still want to believe it is the be all, end all of handguns. So now, I just let them.

would it be a good snake gun? just one to put 410 shells in and carry while im in the woods

It should do fine for that, but I'd rather just carry shotshells in a .38 revolver. Truly, the Judge excels as a toy, and there is nothing wrong with that. People just try to make it more than it is. Anything the .45LC can do out of a Judge, it can do better out of a dedicated revolver For those who want to shoot .410 just remember that a .410 slug has about the same energy as a .44 mag WHEN SHOT OUT OF A SHOTGUN. Out of a short barrelled pistol it is not effective. Bottom line is you get a lot of people who fall in love with the idea of carrying a shotgun on your hip and then refuse to see the negative aspects of the pistol. Everyone can buy and even carry whatever they like. The only thing I have a problem with is when people seek advice and someone who has fallen in love with the Judge myth promotes said myth to that person who, with an absence of any reasoned discussion of the numerous shortcomings of the judge, also falls in love with the myth. And so it goes. Sorry for going OT there.

vegassparky

One2gofst:

Alex Williams:

One2gofst:

zoom6zoom:

Have you ever patterned your Judge? Didn't do well with a lot of loads in range tests. A fun shooter but not one I'd choose for a carry gun. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

I've told so many people how the Judge is a poor weapon for anything besides goofing around, yet people still want to believe it is the be all, end all of handguns. So now, I just let them.

would it be a good snake gun? just one to put 410 shells in and carry while im in the woods

It should do fine for that, but I'd rather just carry shotshells in a .38 revolver. Truly, the Judge excels as a toy, and there is nothing wrong with that. People just try to make it more than it is. Anything the .45LC can do out of a Judge, it can do better out of a dedicated revolver For those who want to shoot .410 just remember that a .410 slug has about the same energy as a .44 mag WHEN SHOT OUT OF A SHOTGUN. Out of a short barrelled pistol it is not effective. Bottom line is you get a lot of people who fall in love with the idea of carrying a shotgun on your hip and then refuse to see the negative aspects of the pistol. Everyone can buy and even carry whatever they like. The only thing I have a problem with is when people seek advice and someone who has fallen in love with the Judge myth promotes said myth to that person who, with an absence of any reasoned discussion of the numerous shortcomings of the judge, also falls in love with the myth. And so it goes. Sorry for going OT there.

dude you got it all wrong. i didnt say it is the best gun. i dont carry the judge. and any smart person wouldnt buy .410 slug rounds. buck shot so you dont miss close up, thats why its a good beginner gun and easy to clean. and i wouldnt say i fell in love with it. so what is the negative aspect? do tell

TatuajeVI

One2gofst

vegassparky

thehoff

Wow. I had no idea this thread would take such a turn but I'm glad it did. Please continue. There is some very interesting stuff being posted. For the record, I have been shooting a long time but don't get near the range time I should due to a variety of factors. I have never been a great shot with a pistol but am fairly confident that, given the time, I could develop into a very good shot as I have/once was with a rifle. Pistols designed to minimize user error would carry a premium IMO as I prefer to take a rifle to the range. I understand there is no substitute for practice, but the odds of me using the firearm as barracks defense (haha all you can thank Clinton me having to check my firearms to the arms room if I'm not mistaken) or a carry gun are very low. Me being an excellent shot with it is not required and not a necessity. That being said, I can never predict what I may need down the road so carry ability shouldn't be completely ignored. I guess I never really realized what I truly wanted/needed until I read the feedback. Thanks guys. That's probably the most important piece right there.

TatuajeVI

One2gofst:

The gunshow commandos tell this person that they need this here Judge because it shoots honest-to-God shotshells out of a handgun and they can handle the recoil if they're a man. So that person eagerly buys their compromise gun that does nothing well (save being the best handgun for shooting clay pigeons), learns bad habits by starting off on a gun with too much recoil, and relies on the misguided notion that this gun is a magic talisman that will instantly incapacitate any BG in their general vicinity.

ha! so true! You forgot to add the "sure it's only $450, but I swear it's the highest quality! It's a revolver - it never fails!" Course, in my time working in a gunshop/range I saw nearly every Judge break that came in there. And no, my store did not sell Taurus, thank God.

One2gofst:

Meanwhile said gunshow commando can go and talk that woman who is interested in her first handgun out of an easy to shoot autoloader in to "that nice little j-frame that will fit in your purse real easy." You know, the one with the heavy DA trigger pull, short sight radius, small grips and exceptionally light weight. Just as an setting up that new woman shooter with an Airweight J-frame, as so many love to do, is a disservice that is NOT going to help anyone, so is recommending a Judge for any new shooter.

I loved working at a gunshop - every woman that came through looking for a carry gun was told by their friend/relative/instructor to get "the 5 shot, lightweight revolver that will fit in my purse!" About half of them I'd talk out of it, for obvious reasons, but the other half would rent one and come back cursing at their friend/relative/instructor! "I hate to say it, but I told you so... get a Glock 26 and practice!"

One2gofst

TatuajeVI:

One2gofst:

The gunshow commandos tell this person that they need this here Judge because it shoots honest-to-God shotshells out of a handgun and they can handle the recoil if they're a man. So that person eagerly buys their compromise gun that does nothing well (save being the best handgun for shooting clay pigeons), learns bad habits by starting off on a gun with too much recoil, and relies on the misguided notion that this gun is a magic talisman that will instantly incapacitate any BG in their general vicinity.

ha! so true! You forgot to add the "sure it's only $450, but I swear it's the highest quality! It's a revolver - it never fails!" Course, in my time working in a gunshop/range I saw nearly every Judge break that came in there. And no, my store did not sell Taurus, thank God.

One2gofst:

Meanwhile said gunshow commando can go and talk that woman who is interested in her first handgun out of an easy to shoot autoloader in to "that nice little j-frame that will fit in your purse real easy." You know, the one with the heavy DA trigger pull, short sight radius, small grips and exceptionally light weight. Just as an setting up that new woman shooter with an Airweight J-frame, as so many love to do, is a disservice that is NOT going to help anyone, so is recommending a Judge for any new shooter.

I loved working at a gunshop - every woman that came through looking for a carry gun was told by their friend/relative/instructor to get "the 5 shot, lightweight revolver that will fit in my purse!" About half of them I'd talk out of it, for obvious reasons, but the other half would rent one and come back cursing at their friend/relative/instructor! "I hate to say it, but I told you so... get a Glock 26 and practice!"

I guess we'll just have to agree to agree, LMFAO.

jihiggs

my thinking for wanting the judge for self defense, if I blast some one with the .410 shells its gonna hurt like hell, sure its not going to give them a new *** but it is an effective deterent. could load the first 3 shots with .410 shells then .45 shots in the remaining two. if the first 3 shells dont incapacitate them, the 2 remaining .45s will. the bennefit of the .410 shells, it is safer to shoot them in a neighborhood and not have to worry about them going through the neighbors wall and killing him if you miss. I agree that for this reason a shotgun would be ideal but a shotgun is large and cumbersome to carry around. the judge sounds like it will get the job done and still easy to carry around when camping. plus plinking around with .410 is cheap and fun!

One2gofst

TatuajeVI