Another Krieg Rant...

Krieg

sightunseen

bigbgballz

That is just another excuse for their fu•k ups and corruption,yeah we fuc•ed up cause we were unfortunate,my ass!Thats just my 2 c!

havanaal

In principle you're right. But as a business owner and natural conservative social Darwinist, I would be the first to point out that the playing field is indeed skewed to the rich and powerful. Sorry, it's just a fact of life. but I don't trust government to fix it. Nor can it be fixed.

kuzi16

laker1963

kuzi16

Krieg

I got where I am in life today, not because I am lucky, it's because I work my ass off (like many other people on here), this is why I have always hated the phrase "gives back" that phrase implies what I have was given to me, either by luck or some other way...not because I worked for it. I guess my original point is lost on some people and no matter how I try to explain it.

wwestern

Very well said Krieg, liberals absolutely hate success it really hinders the propaganda they spread like disease. Thats why you'll be punished and villified by the left for success.

Vulchor

I will only make the statement that for the many who are "born into" money they did have the "luck" of having parents with dough. Maybe they worked hard, maybe the kids do and further their success---I am not doubting that is possible. But the majority of wealth in this country stays centered in the same families over generations so to say it is all hard work may be true.....but it may be hard work with little doubt of failure or ruin because you have a security net around you or hard work in a job that was made for you to step into. I dont believe I am arguing a "liberal" side, as I dont think even the most liberal people believe that all people with wealth were "lucky"------just presenting another side.

Vulchor

wwestern:

Very well said Krieg, liberals absolutely hate success it really hinders the propaganda they spread like disease. Thats why you'll be punished and villified by the left for success.

Wow, theres a blanket and generally incorrect statement. "Liberals hate success"....its like a bumper sticker for a Palin Party or Teabagger convention----sorry, TEA PARTY ACTIVISTS, lol. I know how fragile the egos can be when name calling goes around.

wwestern

Vulchor:

wwestern:

Very well said Krieg, liberals absolutely hate success it really hinders the propaganda they spread like disease. Thats why you'll be punished and villified by the left for success.

Wow, theres a blanket and generally incorrect statement. "Liberals hate success"....its like a bumper sticker for a Palin Party or Teabagger convention----sorry, TEA PARTY ACTIVISTS, lol. I know how fragile the egos can be when name calling goes around.

It's how they get voters lol. "We're gonna punish the folks who take care of buisness and make something of themselves so you can have __________!" As far as name calling have at it hoss. When you're arguing against common sense name calling is just as good of a strategy as any other. When your politics cater to poor people then making sure people stay poor is in your best interest, the more people who depend on your handouts the more votes you have.

Vulchor

Lol-----Its apparent common sense isnt quite so common anymore, continue on the bashing of the "liberals" which makes so many here so happy. Viva Sean Hannity!

wwestern

mrpillow

Hayblet

so are we going to debate at the herf? lol

kuzi16

kuzi16

martymcg43

hmmm... i don't really know where to begin in this debate... some interesting points Krieg. and i agree in some respects. i do believe that the harder you work and the more challenges bested the farther you will go in life. however LUCK does play some part. say i was born with my parents being billionaires. i would have to say that that would be extremely lucky. and in turn i wouldnt really have to do anything at all but be rich. no real work would be involved. say Paris Hilton for example. she's gone far in her life, wealth and fame, without really doing anything at all. but for the "normal folk" we work for what we get. unless i win the lottery... which in turn would be very lucky of me.

kuzi16

Vulchor

Thats what I was tryin (and thought I did say) Marty...good point. And Kuz, I did not mean you specifically about the Tea Bagger comment, I know we have talked about that in the past, but in no way was intended toward you or anyone else specifically for that matter.

kuzi16

Vulchor

Not to worry, I love mud------Now since were on the topics of mud (as in wrestling), Paris Hilton, parenting, and interesting conversation....would this be the time to advocate for her foreced sterilzation, so should we wait until she appears more "serious" with a guy? lol..........D@mn I cant stand her.

laker1963

kuzi16

kuzi16

Vulchor

I will say, and not simply because Laker and I share more views than I do with many others here....when I use the term teabagger, it is meant with the exact same mocking and negative connotation that most everyone here uses with the word liberal. I do not use it to hurt, it is just my vernacular as liberal is for many people here (or socialist or whatever politically correct BS is spouted out). So while you may claim not to find the term liberal inflammatory or deragatory Kuzi, I am confident many due which is why I continue to throw out Teabagger. As you do not believe labeling a liberal is any real negative, nor do I for the term I use to describe that "movement" of likeminded persons.

Vulchor

And indeed I was referring to Paris-----but am open to expanding to others

kuzi16

Vulchor

I loved the video I admit to having watched...luckily I dont watch anything but her X Rated stuff. I can put the Obama vs Pelosi vs Reid vs Gingrich vs Limbaugh vs Palin stuff aside and make the conident statement the she is what is wrong with out great county. Yet in just a few eye catching ways, also what can be right:)

laker1963