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  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
  • LCarLCar Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 57
    timb:

    ...Good idea though, I bet the Verdadero blend would taste awesome with a Ecuadorian/Sumatra wrapper!

     

    That does sound like a good idea Tim...I like the raisiny flavor to begin with, and I also think an EcSu wrapper would compliment the stick nicely.

  • timbtimb BlogAdministrator, Everyone, ForumsAdministrator, Owners, Registered Users, Trusted Users Posts: 216

    Yes, all 3 of those are ecuadorian sumatra.  Sumatra from Indonesia is not the best tasting tobacco in many people's opinion, but it is very cheap and consistent.  It burns well, so larger manufacturers like to use it on their big sellers (Romeo y Julieta for example).  Most Sumatra that you find on 'boutique' cigars is grown in Ecuador 

    I do have Playboy cigars, we just don't have the volume to warrant a webspot for it.  If you want a couple, shoot me an email. 

    20% off ?  You don't pull any punches, do you?  (not a rare corojo reference!)

  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    Leave it up to Tim to bust in and offer up this cigar for 40% of the list price... crafty guy tempting us poor fools with no self control. :)
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Well I wasn't that excited about this cigar but now after reading this I am going to have to give it a shot for sure. This also made me realize one reason I like the RP 92, RP Sungrown and La Flor Dominica Double Ligero so much. I'm betting the wrapper has a lot to do with it. Those are three of my all-time favorite smokes.
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    Yeah Puro, the Ecuadorian Sumatra is becoming my favorite wrapper, right alongside the cameroon. If it weren't for Duty and his super-analysis, I probably never would have realized how many cigars I like utilize the EcSu wrapper. Kudos to Duty for being a wrapper nerd :)
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • timbtimb BlogAdministrator, Everyone, ForumsAdministrator, Owners, Registered Users, Trusted Users Posts: 216

    you know, now you guys have me questioning myself.  Thanks a lot! Wink [;)]

    I will ask Alex specifically about Sol Cubano CC and Sum, but from what I remember about those blends, they were both Sumatra from Ecuador - but I have been wrong in the past.  So, so wrong...

    Have a good day guys.  Go Phillies!

  • FourtotheflushFourtotheflush Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,555
  • Alex SvensonAlex Svenson BlogAdministrator, Everyone, ForumsAdministrator, Moderator, Owners, Registered Users Posts: 1,204
    Crap, how did I miss this thread for so long? Let me start by setting the record strait, 5 Vegas Classic, Sol Cubano Sumatra are both Indonesia sumatra. Cuban Cabinet is Habano Ecuador. Another great new Sumatra Ecuador is the La Herencia Cubana which is made by one of my favorite factories, Fernandez. On to the Organic. I will be the first to admit that when this guy told me he was growing organic tobacco, I kind of rolled my eyes. Here is a farm in one of the most prime soils I have ever seen at the base of Mambacho right of Lake Nicaragua and he decides to grow organic which yields plants with small leaves. He told me the tobacco had a special flavor and I dismissed it. But then I smoked it. Let me tell you that i am the first person to not pick up on certain flavors like chocolate or anise when other people do, but this sucker is all raison, no doubt. After lighting it up, I am a true believer. I did not buy it because it was organic, but rather because it was absolutely one of the most unique tobaccos I have ever smoked and it just so happened to be organic. I have my hands in tobacco all day. In fact, I am in nicaragua now looking at pilones of Jalapa Corojo. I can tell you guys that this is something different if you want to try a cigar that has a legit different taste. Yes it is mild and that is by design. I went with a very smooth and creamy wrapper so the wrapper and binder did not overshadow the filler. I wanted the filler to be in the spotlight for this blend. As far as it tasting like a maduro like the one review said, that is spot on. The tobacco is triple fermented and is actually maduro since it goes through all the same processes as a maduro wrapper. The only difference is that because of the organic style, the tobacco is of a filler quality only. Props to that review by the way, it was spot on. Anyway, great thread guys and keep the feedback coming!!!
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • jaytothenjaytothen Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 55
    I've been really curious on this cigar. And now with that deal Tim put out, man I just may have to bite on that.
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    Thanks for the insight Alex. Tim already swayed me with his 5 for $15 offer, but it's really cool to get some more in-depth information on the particular cigar from the guy who probably knows the most about it. I'll be going into this with an open mind as I usually do with anything new, but I don't feel I'm going to be disappointed in this one. You Ccom guys are the best.
  • LCarLCar Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 57

    Alex Svenson:
    ... ... As far as it tasting like a maduro like the one review said, that is spot on. The tobacco is triple fermented and is actually maduro since it goes through all the same processes as a maduro wrapper. The only difference is that because of the organic style, the tobacco is of a filler quality only. Props to that review by the way, it was spot on. Anyway, great thread guys and keep the feedback coming!!!

     

       Thank you Alex, for the review confidence...I haven't been smoking cigars all that long, and I was hoping that I wasn't putting useless information out there.

        All it does is rain here in NEPA...I want to smoke the other verdadero in good weather so I can enjoy it, as when I had the first one, it was windy and rainy. I do like the raisin flavor very much, and will certainly order a few more of those sticks.

  • sanesane Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 151
    Thanks for the info Alex, as j0z3r stated "Tim already swayed me with his 5 for $15 offer". I hope to try one when they make it to me but the rainy season just started here and I have no place to smoke them, other then outside.
  • sanesane Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 151
    So I got around to trying one of these last night and I was disappointed. I don't know if it was burning to hot or what but it was bitter almost all the way through. I'm going to try one in a few months when they have aged a bit.
  • StickStick Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1
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  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Man there are a lot of first time posters on this thread. Organic cigars .. hmm.
  • jlzimmermanjlzimmerman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 282
    I was looking for these at my stogie shop but didn't carry them. I found and ordered the 6 stick sampler here for a good price. I hope these are tasty. I'm looking forward to trying them out.
  • undulacundulac Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,129
    I had one of these a couple weeks ago. Although I don't purchase many mild sticks, I plan to have some of these on hand at all times. It was a great change of pace cigar with great flavor. As someone stated earlier, it doesn't evolve much, but I'd rather have one great taste than a few good tastes.
  • brotheradambrotheradam Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 896
    Had one of these for the first time last night I'm a mild to medium smoker at this point and I found it to be very enjoyable, good burn, good draw, solid stick.
  • ENFIDLENFIDL Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,836
    Had my first one of these on Friday night thanks to GDSIM1! I found the taste of this stick to be great. It had a raisin like taste to it after I got about an inch into it. Great construction and burn. It had a slight burn issue at the start, user error lol, and it self correctd and was a beauty of a smoke. I'm gonna have to invest in some more of these.
  • JonathanEJonathanE Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 401
  • jlmartajlmarta Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,440
    I've still got one left from a fiver I picked up some time ago. I thought the first few were good but not great. Had a kinda fresh-mowed-lawn smell/taste to them. Guess I'll have to revisit the blend with my last one, now that it's got some humi-time on it.
  • JonathanEJonathanE Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 401
  • Lakota72Lakota72 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,267
    The last Verdadero I had, I almost posted about it in the cigars that taste like goat ass thread. Not a fan.
  • jlmartajlmarta Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,440
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