It Wouldn't be a Friday if Their Wasn't a Krieg Rant...

Krieg

cabinetmaker

Vulchor

I do remember the "fool me once" mantra....and still love it every time I see G.W. Retard f*uck it up. Almost as much as I love "Mission Accomplished" and the deregulations (that I know, didnt really happen, lol) to land us in the spot. BTW, One political group or another has thought the country was going down and beyond saving ever since this country was founded. These are rough times, but they have happened before and will happen again----its all cyclical. Of course, since all out jobs are going overseas because of breaks the companies get to leave does scare me. And BTW...small businesses are drying. Not because of the "liberals", but because weve allowed WalMart and other huge corporations too much freedom for too long. Thanks yourselves. And for the record, this was not directed at either of you guys before me....just me own little Friday rant.

lilwing88

xmacro

lilwing88

Hayblet

I really think Xmacro hit the nail on the head, well done Sir.

lilwing88

Yea. I have a friend who's job is basically to outsource all of those jobs out to China, that Vulch is referring to. Only they don't do it because of some "breaks" they get from the government. Quite the contrary, they do it cuz they have no choice if they wanna stay in business and compete. He's not proud of what he does, but the reality is, is that his job and thousands of other jobs depend on his company turning a profit (which they still are btw.... one of the few)

PuroFreak

kuzi16

Vulchor

Im not going to debate here, or argue, or otherwise because everyone can spit out numbers or "facts" from their side...only to be shown contrary to the other. I am simply giving a different opinion here, I am sorry that I often mess up the bitching and whining fest and stroke jobs that run so rampant here. Puro, I could talk about deregulation of banks, wall street, housing, etc. and you would in turn counter everything I say and with some type of stat that could be shown 180 degrees different, if I used a different source or bit of info---and frankly its not worth it to me, or to see the mounds of others agree to reinforce their already held beliefs. Im really not trying to be an ass here, but we will never get anywhere because our views our often too different for either of us to understand and sometimes even respect. Everyone can continue talking unabated now about how we are on the eve of our national destruction...people have been saying it for about 225 years now.

Vulchor

BTW, I agree Kuzi that Govt is spendin too much. And I am all for cutting spending on medicaid, entitelment programs, welfare, etc. HOWEVER, we better damn well also be cutting Social Security (or at least no yearly raises), Medicare, and especially the military budget.

kuzi16

Vulchor:

BTW, I agree Kuzi that Govt is spendin too much. And I am all for cutting spending on medicaid, entitelment programs, welfare, etc. HOWEVER, we better damn well also be cutting Social Security (or at least no yearly raises), Medicare, and especially the military budget.

nothing to disagree with here.

TatuajeVI

ejenne87

TatuajeVI:

make our Federal government smaller, less intrusive into business, and less intrusive into our personal lives. And, give these idiots in charge or our government less of our money. Because it is our money, and not theirs, and we know how to spend it more efficiently than they do.

I try to stay out of these threads, but I was reading through because I'm bored and I have to say, I have never agreed more with anything posted in a thread like this than I do with this statement. Every time this topic comes up for discussion this is almost exactly what I say and just get blank stares in return. It's nice to hear it from someone else from time to time...

Vulchor

Tat----I do not agree with ANY of those things at what you percieve to be the "core" of the Teaparty. I in fact agree with them by in large. HOWEVER, what I do disagree with is what I think are their means to get there (to a lesser degree) and that I do not beleive that is at all what is fueling this movement, just the face they put on to appear legit (to a greater degree). And love how the "liberal SHOCKER" professor is criticised, as so many "liberals" seem to be because they are intelligent and have higher degrees.....No, no, I would much rather have Jim Bob and his 6th grade education leading the country because at least he knows family values and loves jesus. Not saying you meant this, but its funny how being educated can be such a bad thing. Not at all because those same "liberals" took the time and energy to learn instead of spouting *** of while living under a rock somewhere in northern Mississippi.

kuzi16

Vulchor

Fair enough---and I can see both of those points and agree more than disagree.

fla-gypsy

Like it or not, the movement to squash this administration and congress and remove the Dem majority is gaining momentum and it will overrun the Dems come November. Their ineptitude is now on public display and can no longer be hidden by the Dem loving lame stream media. Ignoring what bulit this nation into the economic power house it is/was makes no sense. It is NOT Govt intervention and meddling into every aspect of our lives.

Vulchor

It will not overrun in November, you're wrong there----hopeful, and a tad right, but it will not overrun. There has been ineptitude for years, not just since the teabaggers. See the Iraq conflict we're in...you know, the mission accomplished one where we found the WMD's??? And afterall, after a yaer in office, how could Barack not yet correct all the problems he inherited right? The short sightedness and closed mined idea baffle me sometimes... continue burying head in sand.

kuzi16

Vulchor

Not talking about gypsy....saying that mentality as a whole baflles me. He may share than mentality, but not talking to him directly.

kuzi16

fla-gypsy

The house will change hands, the senate is in play as well. I didn't expect O to fix all the problems, just not make them worse which he and those idiots Pelosi and Reid did as quick as they could. No one can fix all the problems because of the entitlement metality that exists in this country now. BTW, Vulchor you are quick to belittle anyone who does not agree with you, just saying bro!

Vulchor

I dont understand why they would want it Kuzi---and yes, the logical side of me totally understands....but my sensical side doesnt seem to follow suit. Also I do beleive it is impossible to take the Senate back barring some unforseen disaster....but that doesnt baffle me as much, thats just hope and I understand that.

PuroFreak

Vulchor:

I dont understand why they would want it Kuzi---and yes, the logical side of me totally understands....but my sensical side doesnt seem to follow suit. Also I do beleive it is impossible to take the Senate back barring some unforseen disaster....but that doesnt baffle me as much, thats just hope and I understand that.

You know Vulchor, I'm almost with you as far as I don't see how the Republicans sweeping in Nov. would help very much. I believe the Republicans are the lesser of two evils, but as long as the people keep putting people like John McCain in office over and over, there will never be a true change of the way things are done.

TatuajeVI