Fidel's Change of Heart?

PuroFreak

Hayblet

Say what you will about how recent Communism Governments have been ran, but when done right Communism is the most stable forms of government around, but it has to be stair-stepped to get there,you can't just jump into pure Communism and expect it to work.

PuroFreak

Hayblet:

Say what you will about how recent Communism Governments have been ran, but when done right Communism is the most stable forms of government around, but it has to be stair-stepped to get there,you can't just jump into pure Communism and expect it to work.

I would like to see some kind of evidence to back that statement... Throughout history communism has been an utter failure time after time and is one of the most mid-guided ideologies ever to have been put to use. Trying to figure out if you're being extremely sarcastic (hard to tell when reading typed words) or have some proof to back this statement.

fla-gypsy

PuroFreak:

Hayblet:

Say what you will about how recent Communism Governments have been ran, but when done right Communism is the most stable forms of government around, but it has to be stair-stepped to get there,you can't just jump into pure Communism and expect it to work.

I would like to see some kind of evidence to back that statement... Throughout history communism has been an utter failure time after time and is one of the most mid-guided ideologies ever to have been put to use. Trying to figure out if you're being extremely sarcastic (hard to tell when reading typed words) or have some proof to back this statement.

I am with Puro on this one, when has it ever been successful. How many times in the past 30 years have we seen communist/socialist systems interject capitalism into their economy to save it? Plenty! Even the Chicoms have embraced it, the Russians have exceeded our capitalist system in corruption already while the N Koreans hold out and slowly starve themselves to death

One2gofst

PuroFreak

fla-gypsy

Communism already has a way to remove persons that screw it up, they are called Gulags, re-education camps, etc

xmacro

Lasabar

In Soviet Russia, Cigar Smokes YOU

Amos Umwhat

I reckon I'm with the majority here. Communism is great, at about the tribal level, when you're related to everyone, and you know good and well that if you let the family down, well, you're 'fredo. And that's all for you, 'fredo.

Hayblet

Vulchor

dennisking

communism works in a utopian society where everyone is selfless and giving. when people have greed (which we all have some form of) it doesn't work. there were "bible communists" in the 1890's before Marx had ever written the Communist Manifesto. I think that Communism gets a bad rap because of all the people that have used it as a way for ultimate dictatorship control

Lasabar

mrpillow

Jetmech_63

EDIT: nevermind, misread something.

Lasabar

dhall6

Communism always gets a bad rep due to the dictatorial nature that tends to arise within it. One2gofst definitely got it right, it is one of those things that just looks good on paper but differs largely in practice. The whole point of communism is the destruction of government; the government is merely a tool to be used (ideally) until the Utopian society is finally reached, wherein it would then be abolished as government is no longer needed to regulate the people. Much of our outlook on communism was shaped by the Cold War and because of that many people look at communism in a negative connotation and write it off immediately when in theory it really isnt that bad. During the Cold War everyone thought that the U.S.S.R. was controlling other communist nations, spreading communism around the world, and this has been proven to not be the case. Am I a communist? No. Not by a long shot. lol But things things like this tend to become misconstrued and not looked at past the surface. Usually in capitalistic societies close to 1% of the people control the majority of the wealth; is that fair? Personally I don't think it is..but that also doesn't make me want to be a communist. lol All systems have their pros and cons, and people just have to decide what they wish to pursue.

kuzi16

Krieg

I think it was Margaret Thatcher that said once "The problem with Communism/Socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money". Communism looks appealing in theory, but in reality has always failed....and will continue to fail. No other economic system has raised the standard of living as high and for so many people than Capitalism.

One2gofst

Vulchor

xmacro

PuroFreak

Vulchor

Here we goooooooooooooooooooo

cabinetmaker

Vulchor:

Here we goooooooooooooooooooo

Yep, that's where we are heading. So, Here we goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

Vulchor

Yes, the sky is falling I know------getting a bit old that all posts with any news or current events have to degernate into this.

mrpillow

PuroFreak

Vulchor:

Here we goooooooooooooooooooo

No no no, that's actually not where I was going with this at all. I was simply pointing out that socialist countries with dictators aka Hugo Chavez and people like this, will eventually transition into a communist state. If Cuba had gone through a slow transition their decline would have been much slower than it has been, but plunging into communism by way of a revolution just sped up the decline in their economy. I wish the reporter doing the interview could have discussed this issue with him further. I thought it was interesting.

Vulchor

Could be on that issue, doomed for failure no matter what the way it is done however. Sorry if I may have misinterpreted or intimated where I thought you were going.

TatuajeVI