Less Government, Not More.

jlzimmerman

Bad Andy

I Tivo'd it and have watched most of it. Stossel is great. He did a nice one on education a couple of years ago.

kuzi16

dutyje

kuzi16

dutyje

kuzi16

urbino

kuzi16

kuzi16

urbino:

... the private property system, the private corporation...

umm ... not government run. those should never be run by government. EVER.

urbino

But they are entirely creatures of the gov't. Without gov't, they wouldn't even exist. That was my point.

urbino

kuzi16

kuzi16

urbino

kuzi16

urbino

kuzi16:

and im just saying that the more regulation there is the worse off a nation tends to become. when/where will the regulation be too much? when it turns south we will know.

We will know it was one or the other, but not necessarily which one. (Actually, it could also be due to some externality, but let's leave that aside for now.) The 1929 crash was due to too little regulation. Our current problem looks to me like the same, but opinions differ.

kuzi16:

you cant be free and regulated at the same time

And if you privilege freedom to the exclusion of all other social goals, it's perfectly legitimate to oppose nearly all regulation. But most of us value freedom along with other things, like some degree of security, stability, predictability, etc. To the extent those things are desired by the members of a society, there's going to have to be regulation.

dutyje

kuzi16

Luko

urbino

ebitler

Although I believe some Gov't is a necessary evil; I think my favorite founding father Thomas Jefferson said it best...... "A Government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away."

PuroFreak

I would like to point out that the Drinking and driving thing is a criminal law and not a safety regulation as well. There is a huge difference there. It doesn't apply to the arguement for government regulation because it is a law made to protect people. Without laws there would be anarchy and that can't happen. But I totally agree that less, not NO, government regulation is better for the nation. If you want the government to take more of your money and tell you what you can and can't do with it then I think that should be your right. But don't impose their will on me and my pocket book.

urbino

ebitler:

Although I believe some Gov't is a necessary evil; I think my favorite founding father Thomas Jefferson said it best...... "A Government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away."

Well, again, I don't think anybody's arguing for a gov't that gives you everything.

kuzi16

urbino:

ebitler:

Although I believe some Gov't is a necessary evil; I think my favorite founding father Thomas Jefferson said it best...... "A Government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away."

Well, again, I don't think anybody's arguing for a gov't that gives you everything.

no but we are getting closer and closer to that.

dutyje

If people don't want to be killed by a drunk driver, can't they just elect to stay off the roads and not to drive anywhere? Isn't this similar to choosing not to eat in an establishment that allows smoking? Obviously, it's extreme to make a point. If you don't like the politicians that wrote the laws, elect some new ones. That's the same as choosing not to visit an establishment that allows / doesn't allow smoking.

Luko

PuroFreak

Toombstone in the graveyard!

Luko

PuroFreak:

Toombstone in the graveyard!

Damn, i hope you're wrong cause that's not where i remember it from, and i look pretty darn foolish if I can't get my own question right. I'll be back...I'm off to the googles.

PuroFreak

Luko