good read

kuzi16

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dutyje

Garen B

I really am nervous about the ban on smoking in dining areas and common areas in apartments in LA only because they are going to try to bring it to a state level and its already hard enough to try to find an area to enjoy a smoke when I visit my buddy in San Diego. Really the only place me and him have to smoke is the common area of his apartment building, there are a few cigar bars in the area but driving over to a cigar bar just to kick back and hang out with him is sometimes more trouble than its worth. I hope it doesn't get passed, but knowing California, it will be.

dutyje

You know, Garen, you bring up a good point regarding people in apartments. I've been thinking about this in the context of being a homeowner. I think it a legitimate case can be made against a smoking ban in that case. I think that leaving smoking to the discretion of the owner in the case of residences is a more viable solution. That includes smoking inside apartments as well as certain common areas. Dining establishments, drinking establishments, other public areas, and residences each have their own particular considerations. It is worthwhile to have a law that is specific in each of these cases.

j0z3r

This is so thoroughly over-reaching that it borders on ridiculous. Seems to me as though they are trying to take away any sort of freedom for adults to partake in a legal activity. I don't see how it can pass, but stranger things have happened.

Wafflebob

I personally see it as the government stripping citizens and private businesses of their rights. How can it be legal for a government to tell a bar or pub owner that he cannot smoke or allow others to smoke in his own establishment? It's not like anybody is forced to go there or that the business provides something that people need.

zoom6zoom

Virginia is another state that doesn't allow "bars". No alcohol sales without food sales.

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