Cigar/Tobacco Shops being Targeted In California
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F#$% ME ! These SOB Lawmakers are at it again and From what I just Heard on the news its going to Go through
Below is an snippet from the Article in the LA Times about the Ban
The bill is opposed by some business groups, including the California Small Business Association and the California Hotel & Lodging Association, but neither is lobbying against it. Most major hotels in California already have smoke-free lobbies and few smoking rooms because that’s what the market demands, lobbyist Randi Knott said.
The bill would not affect workplaces where all the smoking areas are outdoors, such as the Disneyland resort in Anaheim.
Tobacco retailers are putting up more of a fight. The California Association of Retail Tobacconists opposes any statewide ban affecting tobacco shops, group president Charles J. Janigian said. Most smokers are adults, tobacco use is legal, and shops and lounges are “the only safe haven they have to go and enjoy a good cigar or a bowl of pipe tobacco,” he said.
Janigian said the bill as written would even affect private cigar lounges associated with retail stores, such as the new Fat Man Cigars lounge a few blocks from the state Capitol, which has attracted some legislators as members.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
Below is an snippet from the Article in the LA Times about the Ban
The bill is opposed by some business groups, including the California Small Business Association and the California Hotel & Lodging Association, but neither is lobbying against it. Most major hotels in California already have smoke-free lobbies and few smoking rooms because that’s what the market demands, lobbyist Randi Knott said.
The bill would not affect workplaces where all the smoking areas are outdoors, such as the Disneyland resort in Anaheim.
Tobacco retailers are putting up more of a fight. The California Association of Retail Tobacconists opposes any statewide ban affecting tobacco shops, group president Charles J. Janigian said. Most smokers are adults, tobacco use is legal, and shops and lounges are “the only safe haven they have to go and enjoy a good cigar or a bowl of pipe tobacco,” he said.
Janigian said the bill as written would even affect private cigar lounges associated with retail stores, such as the new Fat Man Cigars lounge a few blocks from the state Capitol, which has attracted some legislators as members.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
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Copy and Paste this one in your Broweser.... From what the news has said It pretty Much will ban smoking everywhere but in your own Home ... and i would say eventually you will not be alowed to even smoke in your own back yard for fear a nieghboor will get second hand smoke... This will not go down withoutb a Fight from the Cigar and Tobaccoo stores but They will never win this one at least not In Healthy California...
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/10/3542216/bill-would-expand-california-smoking.html#mi_rss=AP State News
I think it is funny how they always try to ban a legal product, yet they love the tax revenue.
Sometimes you just feel so helpless to draconian tobacco laws. I looked at the other laws being propsed in the story, and it is funny for a state that is bankrupt wasting time on nonsense, come on texting while on a bicycle is going to be illegal, what a waste of resources and time.
It is a Sad State of affairs...... I mean seriousley, you can take your Dog Damn near anywhere thats Not Safe or Sanitary... You can posses an ounce of Pot and its an Infraction 75 buck fine..... you can buy Pot on every street corner it seems, but you can smoke a Freaking cigar in a Cigar Lounge where EVERYONE IN THERE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE IN THIER FOR> AND SMOKE A CIGAR! lol REDICULOUS
Just thinking of the future when more states make Pot less illegal, then the smoking bans will attack those guys too!
"CONTACT BUZZES KILLED MY KID!!! I had a beautiful baby boy who got whiff of my neighbors pot-smoke and then fell off the balcony! STOP THESE MONSTERS!!!"
Better yet, mail each lawmaker an Opux X. See if any are returned.
this means my local b&m will have to get frosted glass on its windows. its got a massive window on the side of the walk in humi
if it was frosted i would never have found out it was there
The U.S. has enjoyed its freedoms longer than other countries, but the days of being able to smoke where you want are comming to an end, no matter where you live. Don't shoot the messenger, it's what I have witnessed during my lifetime. First we had the mile, then the kilometer, we had smoking, now we don't (almost don't). Our government now believes that if we own a hunting rifle, we are criminals (just one branch of the gov., but that's enough to start something). I'm suprised the "cruelty to animals act" still allows me to go fishing!
This also happened in Canada. There are now covers over all cigarette displays that block the packages from site. My local B&M could be charged for allowing me into the walk-in humidor the other day. The sad thing is, kids are still smoking....all this "out of sight out of mind" stuff is not working. Imagine your B&M not allowing you to see any of the cigars it carries? Imagine websites that are not allowed to show prices or sell online? Imagine at best, you get to look at a catalogue (without prices) and choose your cigars from that, and the salesperson at the B&M selects the cigars for you and you purchase what they bring out. Imagine Canada.....lots of space, but don't smoke it up.
Fight it all if you can, because once they take it away from you, you can't get it back.
We shall see but i highley doubt that 3-4 tobacco shops 2 of those only been open a couple months and one is in the IRS radar because of a half million dollar tax bill on another buisness, and after talking to some other cigar store owners ... I would be surprised to see this pass in some form or another. Its inevitable in California... other states have similar Bills in motion and some have passed and other countries like b has been mentioned.... Its a Nice thought to think We dont have anything to worry about .... all we can do is pray! I will hate the law even more if it passes.
If they ban my cigars, I ban their pot... plain and simple
As for the shop that is under scrutiny by the IRS that is wrong. The businesses were owned by seperate LLC and have nothing to do with each other, basic business laws. As for the law I have heard by the politicians that will be voting on it that it will not pass as is. If it does I have seen the version that it will be amended to so that it will do almost nothing.
I guess the news is just that the news..... I understand the buisnesses being seperate......
all we can do is pray.... in the words of the GODZ...... Non smokers ....... there are more of us then there is of them. And Californis is on a TRIP TO SHUT DOWN ANYTHING THAT ISNT ORGANIC>>> ITS BULLSHIT... for god sakes they made Happy Meals against the Law in San Francisco.... Im a skeptic
This is what I heard too, and it looks like that's what happened. It was amended to exclude cigar/tobacco retailers and lounges from the restrictions.
This may come as a surprise to many, but half of the states in the Union have tougher workplace smoking restrictions than California has (at least until this bill becomes law). California's 1994 bar/restaurant ban did set the wheel in motion, but the states that followed took it much farther.
"Cigar shop smoking ban snuffed out of workplace smoking bill"
http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/06/smoking-bill.html