Being "asked" to show your receipt

Scrambler

bangalohr

I've found that we're all socialized to submit to any semblance of authority. Personally, I like to violate norms and push the envelope of what people are willing to do. I'm constantly refusing to show my reciept. I'm usually not harrassed about it because I don't argue. It's just a matter of convincing the asker that you're the one in charge, not him. looks like you got a cop, which is a pain. a good percentage of cops don't know how to turn off their a-hole persona. personally, if he didn't allow me to get into my vehicle, I would have called 911 right there. not that I'm intimidatable, but the last thing he wants is to have a report filed against him for assault (making you fear for your safety). I've been trying to convince m buddy to wait at the entrance of wal mart while I run from the sporting goods section in the back to his car outside with a couple boxes of ammo. I still can't convince him that it would be fun.

Jetmech_63

I'm pretty much a Libertarian, and thats total B effin S. You are right, once you pay for your items they are your property. What does showing the the reciept do anyway. Say you have 100 things in your cart, they glance at your cart, glance at the reciept and mark it with a highlighter. WTF does that accomplish? Or do you go to the walmart where in the 50 or so feet between the register and exit you have to pass through the electronics, automotive and alcohol section? Next time that a$$hole tells you he is a cop, ask to see his badge, if he cant produce or he's a "security" gaurd(dont get me started on those worthless pr!cks)...OWNED impersonating a police officer. You may have violated a "store policy" but did not violate the law. People cant seem to distinguish between the two. Next time you go, pay all in pennies, big friggin ziplock bags full of them. Or dont show your reciept, load your car and go, just ignore them when they yell at you, that really p!sses people off because in the end...what can he do to you? If he touches you, you own him. Geez, i've nevver gotten this p!ssed off reading someones post in a while!

bangalohr

Comes from being a military man. It makes it hard to take bullshit from someone you don't respect.

kuzi16

Luko

Huh, I'd never given it much consideration. I don't do a whole lot of shopping, but I guess when I have gone to Sam's Club, I've shown my receipt when asked. I don't go to Wal-Mart. So I was curious to hear what the objections are to do this...why do you guys feel so strongly about it?

Scrambler

urbino

I've never declined to show my receipt, but I've never had to stand in a line to do it, either. That might make a difference.

Scrambler

Luko:

Huh, I'd never given it much consideration. I don't do a whole lot of shopping, but I guess when I have gone to Sam's Club, I've shown my receipt when asked. I don't go to Wal-Mart. So I was curious to hear what the objections are to do this...why do you guys feel so strongly about it?

Luko, at Sam's it's a litte different. The door check is part of the membership agreement, so you don't have as much freedom to blow them off. For me, the objection is pure principle. Sure it would be quicker to flash my receipt at the door than deal with an idiot like this, but once I have purchased an item it becomes my personal property. I'm not in the habit of letting strangers examine my personal property. I'm also not in the habit of giving up my rights in exchange for convenience.

gmill880

If I have my wife with me, who is a business person in our community, then I refrain from making a scene. If its a little 'ol elderly person I refrain from making a scene. I figure they have it tough enough anyways. BUT if its someone with a bad attitude or thinks too much of their little receipt checking self they may have a problem with me. I did make one little punk count the items on my list while I held it (refused to let him touch it) and then open every bag an count the items....told him I wanted to make sure I hadn't lost anything between the register and him. They have to make me ill by their actions though before I give them a real hassel...most in my area are elderly and I know they proably hate being there as much as it is annoying to have to show your receipt.

gmill880

All in all I kinda file it under the ' Don't sweat the small stuff" catagorie

bbc020

urbino

gmill880:

All in all I kinda file it under the ' Don't sweat the small stuff" catagorie

Bingo. Plus, like you said, unless the person was obnoxious about it, I'd feel bad about giving somebody with such a lousy job a hard time just for doing their lousy job. There, but for the grace of God, go I, and so forth.

Jetmech_63

Scrambler

PuroFreak

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts

well i work part time as security for the mall and yes you are on private property and yes they do have right to stop anybody or everybody to see receipt. its not harassment but it is a little time consuming and annoying. so unless you want to be banned from that store just go ahead and show your receipt. kind of petty not too. they're doing their job so let them.

madurofan

bangalohr

I'm a big fan of what cops do, but I just feel better when they're not around. I have a buddy who works for Phoenix PD and his personality does a 180 when he's at work (or so I hear). I just think it's hard for a person to change gears so dramatically. It's hard for people to realize that they don't always have to enforce their will on other people. I used to be a soldier and the hardest thing about Iraq was coming home and not being in control.

Anyway, I didn't mean to infer that all cops are a-holes. I promise I'll smoke one for the police force tonight. After all, they deserve it.

PuroFreak

bangalohr:

I'm a big fan of what cops do, but I just feel better when they're not around. I have a buddy who works for Phoenix PD and his personality does a 180 when he's at work (or so I hear). I just think it's hard for a person to change gears so dramatically. It's hard for people to realize that they don't always have to enforce their will on other people. I used to be a soldier and the hardest thing about Iraq was coming home and not being in control.

Anyway, I didn't mean to infer that all cops are a-holes. I promise I'll smoke one for the police force tonight. After all, they deserve it.

Well smoke one for me Banger, cause I'll be on duty.

Luko

laker1963

gmill880

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts

well for 1 yes the electronic door screeners should in all practical sense work but in realty and even a new store those door screeners work half the time. so yes if you are asked to see your receipt and look in your bag, you should. for another thing, you know your honest but walmart or any store has no idea who you are. put yourself in police,security shoes they need to act as if all citizens are guilty and capable of killing them, thats a big reason so many die is they get to relaxed on their job. so keep that in mind.also its not the managers who make the rules its corporation that makes the rules. take your job for example and if you would have a customer mad at you over a rule. you would tell them same thing. i nor a manager makes the rules its all from the big guys.oh, i wouldn't go running to your car by the way. thats what thieves and guilty people do. yes the store needs to have eyewitnessed you steal something but if they call the police on you for suspicion. well now you get stopped asked questions and embarassed all over something that would have taken 1 minute of your time. so lets say you did have a stolen item all they could do is retake it back and ban you from the store since it wasnt seen first hand.

madurofan

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts:

put yourself in police,security shoes they need to act as if all citizens are guilty and capable of killing them,

Incorrect. Here in America we have this philosophy you may have heard about it. Its called innocent until proven guilty. It protects me from people treating me like I have commited a crime and places the purden on the accuser not the accusee.

Scrambler

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts

you took it to personnally, if you were in law enforcement and/or put yourself in their position, you would totally agree that they need to be "on the defensive" at all times. meaning they need to think you can or may at some point pose a threat to their safety. if this was not the case, more officers would get hurt/killed in line of duty. ask any officer and they will tell you this. its all about going to work alive and coming home alive. they are just keeping their gaurd up is all.have you ever watched some of those cop video shows and they pull over a lady speeding or driving eratically and they go to car not expecting much and the "innocent unharming" lady blows up at them?!!! or the videos of a single cop pulling over a car at night for a taillight out and the guy looks nice but in truth he is wanted for robbery or something and beats the cop up or pulls a gun on the cop. now tell me they cant act defensive from get go. and no they dont have to act like an a-hole but they arent in the biggest customer service field either. they are there to protect well beings and uphold laws, not be your friend and hope they dont get a "how did your officer treat you today" card turned in on them. yes theoretically you are innocent until proven guilty but if you are accused of stealing then you must counter that accusation with proof you didnt. also people dont understand is when they go to any store, you are on private property. if a store wants to throw you out and ban you from their store they most certainly can with some sort of reason. it may not seem right but you have to realize the people that this happens to arent your typical ma and pa going for some clearance items. its the ones that are rowdy or just give trouble from the get go so in all actuality the store or mall is being "cleaned' up for people that want to go and enjoy themselves without dealing with young thugs or thieves that make your $50 jeans cost $60. with that being said if everyone is honest like they said you should be happy they are asking to see receipts and the bad guys being kicked out so your prices stop going up and your shopping experience is good.

Scrambler

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts:

yes theoretically you are innocent until proven guilty but if you are accused of stealing then you must counter that accusation with proof you didnt..

Not in America.

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts:

also people dont understand is when they go to any store, you are on private property. if a store wants to throw you out and ban you from their store they most certainly can with some sort of reason.

They absolutely have the right to ask me to leave and not come back.They don't even need a reason. But even if they do, they still don't have the right to see my receipt or look in my bags, absent reasonable cause.

madurofan

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts:

with that being said if everyone is honest like they said you should be happy they are asking to see receipts and the bad guys being kicked out so your prices stop going up and your shopping experience is good.

i couldn't disagree with this comment more. This is the whole argument for the Patriot Act and any other law stripping us of our rights. The whole"if you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear" routine. I have plenty to fear, most importantly I fear the methodical stripping away of my rights.

ilikebigbutts-cigarbutts

the reason for receipt looking is to see what you have bought to set off the screeners and to see if there isnt something extra you placed in your bag after checkout to set off screeners.this way they can get the stolen property before it hits us all in the end with higher prices. again if your innocent then no worrys but it seems that this is just another way of thinking to keep our law fighting men and woman from doing there job. its bad enough the criminals have more rights now a days than this type of thinking that you dont want people to do their job bc you feel threatened. so gues theres a lot of guilty minds out there. i really dont see what the big deal is of seeing your receipt. the checkout person had to fondle your items and put them in your bag and the people seen whats in your cart the whole store plus checkout. so what is looking at a piece of paper such a big deal? im just curious, what would be your way to deal with this, take all security and law enforcement away and hope bc people say they are honest that noone will steal and we live happily ever after?? also what would you do if you owned a store? you would have some type of security system in place. you would do everything possible to keep from losing money thru stealing. you would also be explaining to the exact same person these feelings when they are giving you crap about this aint fair and i wont show you anything. i just think this is pretty petty to be so outraged over and demand police and managers over 1 minute of your time for such an honest person. honesty dont mind being asked. if a screener gos off you just take it as a bad unit and go on with your day.

phobicsquirrel

Scramz, I'm so with you on this. I never had anyone go to my car or stop me from putting my stuff in my car. If I had your encounter I would file a lawsuite. For me that was way over the edge. The only thing close was when I was followed to the door (as the checker person was a good 15 or so feet from the door with the sensors) and being yelled at to stop and to show my receipt. I kept on walking as I feel the way you do, I put my receipts in my wallet and I'm not wasting time (my time) to show some AHOLE proof of purchase. Out of the million camera's they can get off their fat A**. What happened to you is harassment and is un-called for. I want them to tackle me or to put a hand on me, my god would I love that.