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Humidity for Cigar Aging

Shaun.Harrison87Shaun.Harrison87 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,971
I have a Versailles humidor I keep around 64-66% for cigars that I am ready to smoke and the coolerdor with the main stock of a few hundred cigars at 69-72%. What is the best humidity to age these cigars at long term? The temps in both are around 66-69deg

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  • xmacroxmacro Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,402
    Offhand, I'd say 69-72 is a tad high - try to keep it between 65 and 70% (I like mine closer to 65%)
  • MonteWhiteMonteWhite Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 200
    I actually brought up a similar topic a while back. Now of course, which humidity is best for aging is subjective, but I do remembering someone saying this: higher humidity will cause cigars to age quicker while lower humidity will slow the process. So that's my 2 cents
  • CAcigarguy007CAcigarguy007 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 239
    I'd say you are golden at 69RH-72RH for long-term aging. Those cigars will age awesomely at that RH and the oils will be well protected to boot. If you have a water vent on the cooler I'd open that up, at least halfway to have a good air flow/exchange and help prevent mold, mold doesn't like air, which is why mold is usually found in the bottom corners of humidors. Your cigars will last indefinitely under those conditions, you have nothing to worry about. You're good! I also think what you are referring to is temp, as far as maturation or lack there of, with regard to aging cigars. Temps lower than 55 will slow the aging process down, on the other hand, a lower RH (60ish) will only speed up the loss/degradation of oils/VOC's (volatile organic compounds) which is where a lot of the flavors are.
  • docbp87docbp87 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,521
    Higher end of acceptable for long term aging, low end for smoking. I keep my aging humidor around 67%, and my smoking humis and cooler around 62-63%.
  • fla-gypsyfla-gypsy Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,023
    I prefer my smoking stash at 62--65%. They never sit in my box long enough to age so I don't worry about that! LOL
  • boydmcgowanboydmcgowan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,101
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  • Shaun.Harrison87Shaun.Harrison87 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,971
    I also don't have holes in my cooler yet(as it doesn't have a drain plug) but I will be drilling 2 holes tonight to keep the air somewhat flowing
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • Shaun.Harrison87Shaun.Harrison87 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,971
    I had some weatherstripping laying around last night and placed it on the lip from the right handle to the left handle so the coolerdor doesn't snap shut, it just rests on the weather stripping. This gives me a small gap on top where the weather stripping starts but gives a nice seal that should let the cooler get enough air in the winter without having to burp it.
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
    Shaun.Harrison87:
    I had some weatherstripping laying around last night and placed it on the lip from the right handle to the left handle so the coolerdor doesn't snap shut, it just rests on the weather stripping. This gives me a small gap on top where the weather stripping starts but gives a nice seal that should let the cooler get enough air in the winter without having to burp it.
    I don't quite understand this recent talk of air flow. I have been having a similar conversation in another thread. Where did this idea of drilling holes in coolerdors come from? Would you do it with a wooden humi? They are airtight when closed as well. I am afraid that some BOTL are going to start having all kinds of RH problems with all this experimenting going on. Please be careful guy's... those sticks represent a LARGE investment.
  • Shaun.Harrison87Shaun.Harrison87 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,971
    laker1963:
    Shaun.Harrison87:
    I had some weatherstripping laying around last night and placed it on the lip from the right handle to the left handle so the coolerdor doesn't snap shut, it just rests on the weather stripping. This gives me a small gap on top where the weather stripping starts but gives a nice seal that should let the cooler get enough air in the winter without having to burp it.
    I don't quite understand this recent talk of air flow. I have been having a similar conversation in another thread. Where did this idea of drilling holes in coolerdors come from? Would you do it with a wooden humi? They are airtight when closed as well. I am afraid that some BOTL are going to start having all kinds of RH problems with all this experimenting going on. Please be careful guy's... those sticks represent a LARGE investment.
    The cedar breathes with the outside air a lot better than the coolers do...plus I open my humi about once a day(it's my ready to smoke sticks) and I don't want to have to open the coolerdor because that is for long term storage. I have left the lid cracked with a 1/2"gap on the front of it for a 3day weekend and it stayed at 68% humidity. Many BotL have said that cigars give off ammonia as they age and that is the reason for burping or getting fresh air into your humi...I think this will eliminate the problem, but let me know if I am being mislead
  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
    I Don't know if you are being mislead Shaun, but I would keep a real close eye on that RH. I think if it were me I would try experimenting on the cooloerdor without any sticks in there. If it will hold a stable RH over an extended period of time then you have to decide if you will risk your sticks in it. I think my biggest worry would be that if I were away from the cooler for an extended period, the RH may spike or drop off. I keep my coolerdor closed, but I do go into every other day or so too.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • CAcigarguy007CAcigarguy007 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 239
    I guess I should have specified that I need air flow, hence the holes. I use plastic and since it dose not breath, I actually have to have air flow in order to keep humidity from rising too high. Unlike wood humidors, plastic isn't competing with the cigars for moister and dissipating it slowly so there is no were for it to go. It takes much less humidification in a plastic environment to keep cigars properly humidified. Air is a must for me when using plastic, even when I was running two New Air fridges I never kept the drain holes plugged for the same reason. The humidity will just rise and rise. This dose have some small drawbacks as the humidification devices sometimes have to work a bit harder but adding additional media or making a tighter seal with weather stripping solves that pretty easily. Most coolers have a vent of some kind or simply resting the lid VS. sealing it will be enough. It all really depends on your environment/individual storage conditions, sometimes in the winter when it's really cold you may be able to keep it sealed up and then have to vent in the summer. It really just depends. For me personally (where I live and using plastic) I need to vent in order to keep humidity in balance and keep it from going too high. It really is just on a needs basis and everyone doesn't need to do this, especially with a wood humidor! Just thought I should clarify in case there was some confusion. Don't want anyone poking holes in their pretty new wooden humi....lol.
  • CAcigarguy007CAcigarguy007 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 239
    A side note about storing a humidor sealed for a long time is to be very careful as I have only had a single minor mold issue once and it was in the corner of a wooden humidor that was kept sealed and opened at least every other day for a smoke. Airflow (as a by-product of necessity mind you) provides additional protection from mold. A wooden humidor is the prefect environment for mold (another reason I prefer plastic) to develop so do check frequently for mold rather than just opening for 10 seconds. I'd open them for a few min at min every so often and be diligent on your mold checks, if you catch it early you can save a lot of tears and even salvage the affected cigars by dusting them off and clipping the foot a bit (that is were it usually hits). I'd also wear gloves and/or try to handle your cigars as least as possible, even the oils from your hands can get those molds spores duplicating.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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