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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • havanaalhavanaal Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 150
    Agree in principle. Except for the assumption that the concept of insurance drives up the cost of healthcare. I don't have insurance for my dog. Yet my vet bills are double the medical bills of my kids. Explain that one!
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    havanaal:
    Agree in principle. Except for the assumption that the concept of insurance drives up the cost of healthcare. I don't have insurance for my dog. Yet my vet bills are double the medical bills of my kids. Explain that one!
    Heh, my dogs AND cat all have insurance. Its cheaper than the Vet bills.
  • gmill880gmill880 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,947
    Anybody watch the Obama press conference? If you did wht did you think? I was not convinced or impressed with this stimulus program merits etc. I don't think he's as sincere or inspires much confidence. Did not like his whiney delivery. Whether your a Republican or Democrat two guys who could go on tv before the nation and inspire confidence in a time of crisis and make you believe in what they were saying were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton regardless of if you liked them or not. They just seemed to have that majical ability to connect with their audience......just a thought
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  • dep691dep691 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 311

    gmill880:
    Anybody watch the Obama press conference? If you did wht did you think? I was not convinced or impressed with this stimulus program merits etc. I don't think he's as sincere or inspires much confidence. Did not like his whiney delivery. Whether your a Republican or Democrat two guys who could go on tv before the nation and inspire confidence in a time of crisis and make you believe in what they were saying were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton regardless of if you liked them or not. They just seemed to have that majical ability to connect with their audience......just a thought

    All I know is the economy sucks right now, my wife is worried about her career because of it. I am worried because I don't think the stimulus package is gonna do what the President wants it to do. Dont fool youselves hard times are coming fellas.

  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
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    I kind of see their reasoning behind bumping the price a little though. They are businessmen and have to make a profit. They have employees and bills to pay, and lets face it, they are in this line of work for money. If this tax cuts back the number of people buying cigars and cuts how often people buy cigars, then they are trying to make up a little of the lost revenue.
  • mustluvcigarsmustluvcigars Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 686
    a few brands raised their price right before the bill went through and intend to inflate again in april.
  • rwheelwrightrwheelwright Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,294
    mustluvcigars:
    a few brands raised their price right before the bill went through and intend to inflate again in april.
    Do you know which brands raised prices?
  • mustluvcigarsmustluvcigars Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 686
    I was told EO(601,Cubuao), they are now on the clearance rack at shop where I found out.
  • NSIOpsNSIOps Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 18
    This whole thing is garbage. In all honesty America keeps treating the symptoms instead of the damn problems. Maybe no one can get their kids healthcare becuase no one has any damn money! Besides that I am getting sick and tired of the Government being so "affected" by everything. Like everything is some uncontrollable diseases that occurs with time, and there was nothing we can do to prevent it, and it's no ones fault, and simply we are in a trough, and costs are going up yada yada. Both parties keep preaching this doctrine becuase no one wants to be responsible. The government and these problems all having one thing in common; people. Which makes them -people problems. We need to start finding the responsible parties, watch some heads roll, and replace them. America has gotten so afraid to be confrontational. We NEED some confrontation. All these companies doing utterly stupid things with their money and to avoid confrontation we hand them some more. -Say your the parent of a small child, and you give them a little doll. Then the child takes that doll and beats it, breaks it, craps on it, and cries for another.As a parent what do you do? Well our government seems to be that annoying grocery store parent; the one that has the little brat that begs for cereal and the parent just gives it to them to stop their crying becuase it's easier than letting him ball his eyes out.- Before we hand out stimulus packages and bailouts I want to see some nuts kicked.
  • havanaalhavanaal Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 150
    In the case of childrens' healthcare whose nuts are you going to kick? Medicaid? Hospitals? Doctors? All problems are obviously caused by people (short of "acts of God" and if you believe in global warming then that's caused by people too!) At issue here isn't who caused the problem of the uninsured. It's who's going to pay for the fix. Laying it in the laps of tobacco consumers is dumb to us, but politically expedient to politicians. My point has been that when you cheer the demonizing of some poor sap (me) and tell him he must pay more than his fair share for anything, guess what? Your're next! That's the way society has always worked. That's what MLK lived, and died, for.
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