16 Illegal Aliens Sue Arizona Rancher

jlzimmerman

dutyje

Wow... first off, they are on his private property, which he has the right to defend. Second, how can a non-citizen sue for violation of their civil rights? Also, how can this be decided in a U.S. federal court? Wouldn't this be outside its jurisdiction? And wouldn't the man effectively be making an arrest as a citizen, and therefore be permitted to use the force required to detain the accused until such time as law enforcement officers are able to intervene? If they get so much as a dime, I would like to see the publicity around this escalate.

gmill880

I,m with you on this Duty- what is this country coming to?

kuzi16

madurofan

This is incredible. I'm writing my Senator, right now. If these law-breakers take a cent of this mans money it's a travesty.

smbrink

Wait... I don't understand...how can they be represented by the Mexican-American Legal Defense if they're not Mexican-American? They"re Mexican...Period.

madurofan

smbrink:

Wait... I don't understand...how can they be represented by the Mexican-American Legal Defense if they're not Mexican-American? They"re Mexican...Period.

Amen.

rwheelwright

Agree 200%

Tumbler

Unfreakin' believeable

Luko

Sheet, Mr. Barnett should get some type of award.

gmill880

Maybe theres a limit on how many illegals you can bag in a day ......yea, thats proably it, just over the legal limit.....slap his hand an turn him loose.

rwheelwright

gmill880:

Maybe theres a limit on how many illegals you can bag in a day ......yea, thats proably it, just over the legal limit.....slap his hand an turn him loose. On a serious note, I'm a pretty laid back guy and I don't go looking for trouble,but, having said that, I take that protecting my family and property pretty fu_cking serious and no matter where I live ,someone trying to harm my family ,any friends in my home or myself will find themselves with a h_ell of a firestorm to deal with. I am legally  armed and very proficient in the use of what I have. I still beleive in the fundamentals this country was founded on.

The problem is that nobody else believes in the fundamentals this country was founded on! My grandmother came over to this country in the early 1900s. She came through Ellis Island and did it right. The people now are just hopping the border and think that we owe them something. I think something drastic needs to be done. I also think that the people who hire them as workers need to have severe penalties so that it does not happen again.

dutyje

Look at this, all you right-wing whack-jobs!! We agree on something! Save this thread. Illegal immigration is bad for our economy and bad for our society. I don't mean to disrespect a culture, but changes in citizenship need to be handled through the proper channels. Sneaking across a border and stealing an identity is not te proper channel. This problem persists because we allow it. So now let's stop it.

kaspera79

Duty 1969 miles is the length of border. That's a lot of Real Estate to guard. But still only half as long as the Great Wall of China. What we need is to get some Chinese here build us a wall and solve our Mexican problem. ( I am only kidding)

j0z3r

PuroFreak

dutyje:

Look at this, all you right-wing whack-jobs!! We agree on something! Save this thread. Illegal immigration is bad for our economy and bad for our society. I don't mean to disrespect a culture, but changes in citizenship need to be handled through the proper channels. Sneaking across a border and stealing an identity is not te proper channel. This problem persists because we allow it. So now let's stop it.

By god Duty! We do agree!!! I'm seriously going to write this day down and celebrate it every year! haha

dutyje

j0z3r

That is where my second thing comes in Duty. Sure a mass exodus would open up a ton of jobs, and I'm all for that. The thing, I don't want to say problem so "thing" will have to suffice, that comes up at that point is the subject of minimum wage, workers' rights, potential unionization...a whole host of things you don't have to worry about with illegals. If we were to take a look at just the produce industry, or hell even just strawberries, in a case where only US citizens were filling the job of growing, tending and harvesting, how much would the end product cost compared to what it is now? When the price jumps to $6-$7 per pound and such increases happen across the board on such similar things, then everyone gets up in arms about that. At this point, it almost seems like a no win situation, we've gotten too dependent on the role they fulfill.

dutyje

Which is why you then need to get rid of unions. It's silly that we allow collusion amongst individual entities, but not amongst corporations.

rwheelwright

rwheelwright

Oh and another thing, I bet the suing wasn't even the idea of the Mexicans. It was probably an Idealist American who thought that he or she could make a name for themselves and get their 15 seconds of fame. They are the ones that should be taken to court and sued.

mustluvcigars

phobicsquirrel

dutyje:

Look at this, all you right-wing whack-jobs!! We agree on something! Save this thread. Illegal immigration is bad for our economy and bad for our society. I don't mean to disrespect a culture, but changes in citizenship need to be handled through the proper channels. Sneaking across a border and stealing an identity is not te proper channel. This problem persists because we allow it. So now let's stop it.

lol

phobicsquirrel

He should have shot all of them.

PuroFreak

phobicsquirrel:

He should have shot all of them.

AND the lawyers who are now representing them!!! There should be an open season on lawyers anyway if you ask me. With a MINIMUM bag limit of 5 per week. haha

phobicsquirrel

no kidding. I'm surprised this is even is an issue.

rwheelwright

phobicsquirrel:

no kidding. I'm surprised this is even is an issue.

I'm not surprised. I am disgusted!

rdnstn

phobicsquirrel:

He should have shot all of them.

Exactly! 22,000 acres is a lot of area to bury the bodies.

rwheelwright

rdnstn:

phobicsquirrel:

He should have shot all of them.

Exactly! 22,000 acres is a lot of area to bury the bodies.

And nobody would have known any differently. To be honest, they would have shot him if they had the chance!

rwheelwright