What are the Holidays here without a political discussion (fight)?

Vulchor

deejmemixx

watch another channel and it will be the rights fault. Simple answer, dont watch a tv channel and go read the actual reports from the house and senate.

Vulchor

Have read some----not all-----and what I get is a yea or nay vote on a piece of legislation. I know whaere my feelings lie based on that legislation....so Im not sure what the comment was about. Im not trying to be a d!ck or anything, but I think to state how important perception is in politics would be an insult to anyone who knows the game.

kuzi16

jj20030

dont worry they are getting it rolling , http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/19/obama-campaign-strategist-axelrod-charges-republicans-with-screwing-up-economy/

jasonusa1

beatnic

Vulchor

Vulchor

Also, as far as discussing each sides plan Kuz----I think we could discuss that until we are "blue in the face" (Im full of the liners today) and it wouldnt make a difference. People, myself included, know each side's ideas. We know their reasons, their idealogy, their funders, their backers, points, their disagreements----and I, along with many others, just dont give a $h!t anymore. Both sides are afraid to do anything, and for the power and influence (and in turn money) they get for having their positions its a lot easier to do nothing than it is to do something. I am digusted quite a bit lately at the idea of a representative democracy, because to me that means respresenting the majorities opinion---but not at the cost of the minority totally. In short, compromise. A fragrence that no one seems to be wearing these days. Well, the Senate did yesterday for one vote anyway.

beatnic

Teege

deejmemixx

jasonusa1

deejmemixx

jasonusa1

deejmemixx

jj20030

Teege:

syrians miss him,lol http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/missing-bush_613588.html

JDH

beatnic

Teege

wwestern

beatnic

Vulchor

wwestern

kuzi16

Vulchor:

Also, as far as discussing each sides plan Kuz----I think we could discuss that until we are "blue in the face" (Im full of the liners today) and it wouldnt make a difference. People, myself included, know each side's ideas. We know their reasons, their idealogy, their funders, their backers, points, their disagreements----and I, along with many others, just dont give a $h!t anymore. Both sides are afraid to do anything, and for the power and influence (and in turn money) they get for having their positions its a lot easier to do nothing than it is to do something. I am digusted quite a bit lately at the idea of a representative democracy, because to me that means respresenting the majorities opinion---but not at the cost of the minority totally. In short, compromise. A fragrence that no one seems to be wearing these days. Well, the Senate did yesterday for one vote anyway.

you did clearly identify the problem with a representative democracy. that is what we have become. we need to get to a representative republic. that does take care of the individual, and the minority. it is a rule of law then, not a rule of men.

beatnic

Amos Umwhat

wwestern

cabinetmaker

Term limits on congress would go a long way toward fixing most of what's wrong with our current political situation. Throw them all out and let's start over.

jj20030

Amos Umwhat

jj20030:

i still dont belive it makes one shiaat who becomes president there is a group of men/people somewhere behind the curtain pulling the strings paying the lobbyist/ special intrest groups to further an agenda a chip at a time till one day everybody will say, " WHAT THE HELL HAPPEN ? "

bingo!