My Version of a Cigar "Thesis"

90+ Irishman

kuzi16

big chunks

Maybe look at geography and climate maps of the areas your looking for

scarlin

Looks like you should get on a plane and steal dirt from multiple places and test them for their nutrients. then you should grow them to see noticeable differences in the plants. Then you should eat the dirt. Then you should put certain nutrient in the dirt to compare the tastes. Then you should eat the dirt.

robbyras

scarlin:

Looks like you should get on a plane and steal dirt from multiple places and test them for their nutrients. then you should grow them to see noticeable differences in the plants. Then you should eat the dirt. Then you should put certain nutrient in the dirt to compare the tastes. Then you should eat the dirt.

haha... what?

robbyras

this is an awesome undertaking Irish... great idea and good luck!

bigharpoon

scarlin:

Looks like you should get on a plane and steal dirt from multiple places and test them for their nutrients. then you should grow them to see noticeable differences in the plants. Then you should eat the dirt. Then you should put certain nutrient in the dirt to compare the tastes. Then you should eat the dirt.

lol. Ahhh, God I needed that laugh, I'm having a rotten day. Thanks.

Gray4lines

acewoodson

Might research grant funding if you would like to go to the next level with this.

Krieger

I'd break it down in to smaller segments, like soil composition for one, then weather, tobacco seed used, growing seasons for various regions, etc. Chip away at that mountain. lol

y2pascoe

I think you're over thinking things, man. Unless you and the Mrs. are thinking of packing up and moving to the D.R. or Nicuragua, I think you are over thinking. You want to break into the biz, I get that. Stick with the reviews, learn the marketing, figure out the sales portion of it. Don't let it consume you. Remember, this started out as something fun for you. Keep it that way.

MonteWhite

Hey Irish! I haven't posted in while but I thought this is something my knowledge and experience may be able to help on. But for some reason I can't PM you. PM me will ya and I'll give what I can.

spindrift

To take a different stand on this (not to discourage by any means), you should kidnap Don Pepin...You could put a gun to his head and get a lot of the info you need. The point here is that a lot of what you might be after is proprietary in nature and required years of blending, growing, etc.. I don't think that you are starting an impossible task, however I do believe that you will encounter many road blocks along the way...Good luck, and if I can help in anyway let me know...

90+ Irishman

90+ Irishman

MonteWhite:

Hey Irish! I haven't posted in while but I thought this is something my knowledge and experience may be able to help on. But for some reason I can't PM you. PM me will ya and I'll give what I can.

Thanks Monte and PM sent

90+ Irishman

spindrift:

To take a different stand on this (not to discourage by any means), you should kidnap Don Pepin...You could put a gun to his head and get a lot of the info you need. The point here is that a lot of what you might be after is proprietary in nature and required years of blending, growing, etc.. I don't think that you are starting an impossible task, however I do believe that you will encounter many road blocks along the way...Good luck, and if I can help in anyway let me know...

I agree completely with you on this Paul, it will be very tough, but the main things I am focusing on right now, is mineral content in soul and pH as well. Isolating the key outliers in the differences between soil from X and soil from Y when regarding the same or d@mn similar plant will at least give me the right path to start heading down. The roadblocks will be there the whole time, just have to have patience s all. Thanks!

RBeckom

I'd be happy to get A soil analysis ran on my garden soil and send the results along with eight samples of varieties I grew this year. I'm in the process of fermenting now so it would take about six more weeks to displace most of the Ammonia and make the tobacco palatable. With the soil analysis and samples you could get some firsthand experience with your thesis. Your in for A monumental but interesting pilgrimage into A fascinating field.

docbp87

90+ Irishman

RBeckom:

I'd be happy to get A soil analysis ran on my garden soil and send the results along with eight samples of varieties I grew this year. I'm in the process of fermenting now so it would take about six more weeks to displace most of the Ammonia and make the tobacco palatable. With the soil analysis and samples you could get some firsthand experience with your thesis. Your in for A monumental but interesting pilgrimage into A fascinating field.

That sounds great and I really appreciate it! I think that my first project point of this will be to identify EXACTLY which chemicals in soil have WHICH impact on vegetation first off, and then dial it in further and see what changes between this and tobacco plants. Thank you for your support it is HUGELY appreciated!

scarlin

Get samples from different countries than eat the dirt. See how each compares in your mouth. Not any differences. Then eat the dirt and NO OTHER FOOD except water. Wait for it to pass through your system and see how you feel. Once you excrete it out check your stool and note and abnormalities or differences.

90+ Irishman

kuzi16

docbp87:

(and from all accounts I have heard, a fair amount of partying with JDrew and crew lol).

dear god... yes he sure can host a party. hung out with him a few times on and before my Nicaragua trip.

Ken Light

Ken Light

LoL, whatever the route you choose, there's no way it falls under "cigar 101."

90+ Irishman

Ken Light:

LoL, whatever the route you choose, there's no way it falls under "cigar 101."

BWAHAHAHA yeah you are probably spot on Ken, but I couldn't find a section labeled "Advanced Cigar Theory for Morons" since that is the most accurate way to label what I am doing lol! As for your idea Ken I think you have a great model and thought process. I don't have the space to grow tobacco right now, but that is something I would love to do as soon as the time is right. For now, I will do my best to asses it from a standpoint of same cigar from different years and harvests etc etc. This is going to be VERY difficult with a wide range of interpretations I am sure, but it will give a great ballpark for effects of x,y, and z on "taste".

Ken Light

90+ Irishman:

Ken Light:

LoL, whatever the route you choose, there's no way it falls under "cigar 101."

BWAHAHAHA yeah you are probably spot on Ken, but I couldn't find a section labeled "Advanced Cigar Theory for Morons" since that is the most accurate way to label what I am doing lol! As for your idea Ken I think you have a great model and thought process. I don't have the space to grow tobacco right now, but that is something I would love to do as soon as the time is right. For now, I will do my best to asses it from a standpoint of same cigar from different years and harvests etc etc. This is going to be VERY difficult with a wide range of interpretations I am sure, but it will give a great ballpark for effects of x,y, and z on "taste".

Hey, if nothing else, that's about the most fun, relaxing type of research I've ever heard of...

90+ Irishman

Ken Light:

90+ Irishman:

Ken Light:

LoL, whatever the route you choose, there's no way it falls under "cigar 101."

BWAHAHAHA yeah you are probably spot on Ken, but I couldn't find a section labeled "Advanced Cigar Theory for Morons" since that is the most accurate way to label what I am doing lol! As for your idea Ken I think you have a great model and thought process. I don't have the space to grow tobacco right now, but that is something I would love to do as soon as the time is right. For now, I will do my best to asses it from a standpoint of same cigar from different years and harvests etc etc. This is going to be VERY difficult with a wide range of interpretations I am sure, but it will give a great ballpark for effects of x,y, and z on "taste".

Hey, if nothing else, that's about the most fun, relaxing type of research I've ever heard of...

Thanks Ken! And yeah, this is research, but it is something truly enjoyable for me and makes me have a deeper and richer experience with every cigar I smoke

Jiffy78

KingoftheCove

Poker Slob

Look at the Tobacconist University. Lots of info and knowledge available. I believe Kuzi has a friend that is a Master Tobacconist. But, I am old and could easily be mistaken.

90+ Irishman

Thanks everyone, and I have been re-evaluating and narrowing my field of research, more updates soon and once again thank you all!