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dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263

OK.. I said in the newbie thread I've got lots of questions.  I find myself surprised nobody has asked this one.  I also find it easier to sit on the couch and type this than to ask the guy at the tobacco shop.  So here we go.

 

What's the deal with all these shapes?  I've never smoked anything but a (gah, what's the generic term?  Parejo?)  Toro, Robusto, Churchill, Corona... etc.  The wild shapes seem more like something I'd see in the mouth of a cartoon mobster bearing the stereotypical 5-o'clock shadow and playing poker.  Is there an advantage to these shapes?

 

So far, all I can come up with is that on something that narrows slowly at the foot, it's easy to get a cut of precisely the right girth for the draw you want.  Now, I'm no physicist or anything, but I imagine that having an opening significantly narrower than the girth of the cigar itself will reduce the surface area of your filter, and cause the tar to gum up the works at the exit point.  Yuck.

 

I can at least see the desire for a larger girth as you near the head of the cigar, to defray the heat a bit as you draw closer to the end of your session.  But silly stuff like that pyramid shape doesn't make a wit of sense to me.  And I've also heard mention that the shapes will impart a very different flavor.  Now how is a robusto going to be different in flavor from a Toro, at least from the point that you've smoked the first inch or so off the Toro?  Frankly, I've always chosen my size by the amount of time I figured I wanted the thing to last.

 

Too much thinking, not enough smoking.  Forgive me, I'm learning.

 

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  • gott.des.feuergott.des.feuer Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 136
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    What a great answer. Thanks, gdf.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263

    Thanks for the thorough response!  I hadn't thought about the wrapper/filler ratio affecting the flavor, but that makes perfect sense.  I didn't mean to imply that a cigar has a mechanism specifically intended to filter... I just figure that the tobacco between the burn and your lips would naturally absorb some of the smoke.  Also, great point about the extra distance provided by a tapered head (I think I got that right this time) and how that will cool the smoke.  I may select a couple of my favorite brands and experiment with the way the different shapes impact the flavor.  Thanks again for all the great info!

     

    Joe

     

  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • jlzimmermanjlzimmerman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 282
    There's great cigar information, including shapes, listed in Wikipedia. CLICK ME
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    Everyday I am amazed at how dedicated you guys are to this topic/love/hobby/ pleasure we all share..It makes me want to try more and different cigars to see what I may be missing or have yet to discover..Thanks to all the contributers of this forum...
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    kaspera79:
    Everyday I am amazed at how dedicated you guys are to this topic/love/hobby/ pleasure we all share..It makes me want to try more and different cigars to see what I may be missing or have yet to discover..Thanks to all the contributers of this forum...
    I second that!
  • gott.des.feuergott.des.feuer Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 136
    dutyje:
    What's the deal with all these shapes?  I've never smoked anything but a (gah, what's the generic term?  Parejo?)  Toro, Robusto, Churchill, Corona... etc.  The wild shapes seem more like something I'd see in the mouth of a cartoon mobster bearing the stereotypical 5-o'clock shadow and playing poker.
    Oh yeah, and if you think some of those shapes are weird, google "drew estate egg" and/or "parejo galaxia".
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Or the pimp stick or medusa lol.
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    I saw the Egg once and wondered who would ever try to smoke that thing. That must be the worst selling cigar in the Drew Estates line. Not for quality or taste, but for oddity. ( the first time I ever used that word except to describe the circus' lizard boy or bearded lady. )
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    gott.des.feuer:
    dutyje:
    What's the deal with all these shapes?  I've never smoked anything but a (gah, what's the generic term?  Parejo?)  Toro, Robusto, Churchill, Corona... etc.  The wild shapes seem more like something I'd see in the mouth of a cartoon mobster bearing the stereotypical 5-o'clock shadow and playing poker.
    Oh yeah, and if you think some of those shapes are weird, google "drew estate egg" and/or "parejo galaxia".
    The Galaxia is the most ridiculous looking cigar I've ever seen. I actually had to buy one just to have it, and when I held it in my hand I could not conceive how one would go about smoking it, let alone finishing it. This cigar would easily take 5-6 hours, if not more, with its 10x100 measurement. That and the Puros Indios Chief at 18x66.... you would have to be at least a little bit masochistic to undertake something of such size.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    j0z3r:
    This cigar would easily take 5-6 hours, if not more, with its 10x100 measurement. ... you would have to be at least a little bit masochistic to undertake something of such size.
    Ill get right on it. ill call you in a week when i finish.
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    I got a stomach ache just looking at that thing..thats to much for even the most experienced smokers
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    i suspect that i would get tired of smoking it before it was anywhere near done.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Did you guys see those CAO Sopranos collections, the bat and the 40 and all that crap. I watched a guy smoke the bat ... ridiculous lol.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    madurofan:
    Did you guys see those CAO Sopranos collections, the bat and the 40 and all that crap. I watched a guy smoke the bat ... ridiculous lol.
    i wish i had a bat... i just have the robusto in that line.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    really really.... er am i thinking of another brand... i know that fuente made a sosa bat... im not sure CAO made a bat for that line.... i think they had the associate, the boss, soldier, and... i cant remember the other one. i have the associate.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    No no they really made them but it was ridiculous like 80+ ring gauge at the barrel.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    it must have been a special custom roll just for one or a few events. i dont think ive seen one in real life but now that i think of it i kinda remember it.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    I just emailed you a picture of the box set.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    thats the exact picture i was kind remembering. thanks
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Sure thing, I was wrong though its the torpedo and the the champagne bottles that are ridiculous.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    yeah... i dont know if i want a cigar that big. Ive smoked up to a 62 ring... but that looks a bit to big. ... a bit to Freudian for me.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    kuzi16:
    yeah... i dont know if i want a cigar that big. Ive smoked up to a 62 ring... but that looks a bit to big. ... a bit to Freudian for me.
    Very Freudian(good term) ... I smoke the 66 ring Nub but its 4 inches long, not so Freudian.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    i had to think of a good way to say that.
  • kaspera79kaspera79 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,144
    Being from Chicago and the Sammy Sosa era, I thought " A Sosa bat, what is it filled with Cork ?" but I know that is another Fuentes line of fine smokes.
  • tripledeadheattripledeadheat Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 24
    If its "too Freudian" shouldn't it be bigger? HHMMMMMM.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    LOL trip we were talking about the ridiculously large cigars The sopranoes collection has one thats 86 ring
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