Re-named/derailed thread: Re-debating Slavery & Citizens United

Vulchor:
If you consider lying, cheating, stealing, shipping jobs over seas, being a biggot, gay bashing (while having gay affairs behind the scenes), and stripping rights under the fear of terrorism CLASS....then I would agree with you.

But on a serious note, religion wise, as long as the right wing (or left wing for that matter) want to base everything on a presumed opinion of some guy that walked on water and lived 2,000 years ago....and his stories are VERY eerily similar to other religions prior to the current Christian movement-------then yes, I do have a hard time taking that seriously. Relying on mysticism and voodoo as opposed to science in reason, as advanced as we are as people, is absurd but even moreso...dangerous.

Wow, I could write a book on that last paragraph. Want to talk science? I'm a scientist (BS, MS) Environmental/geology. Do you believe in man-made global warming? Watch out, its a trick question.

As to religion, I'll stay away from discussing that with you. You have made your opinions on that quite clear. You don't need it.

Vulchor:
If you consider lying, cheating, stealing, shipping jobs over seas, being a biggot, gay bashing (while having gay affairs behind the scenes), and stripping rights under the fear of terrorism CLASS....then I would agree with you.

But on a serious note, religion wise, as long as the right wing (or left wing for that matter) want to base everything on a presumed opinion of some guy that walked on water and lived 2,000 years ago....and his stories are VERY eerily similar to other religions prior to the current Christian movement-------then yes, I do have a hard time taking that seriously. Relying on mysticism and voodoo as opposed to science in reason, as advanced as we are as people, is absurd but even moreso...dangerous.

As to the first paragraph, I'll refer you to my first post. you just lumped and ridiculed, sir.

Lying, cheating, illogical, law breaking, pro-foreign over U.S., pro baby kiling, anti crime victim, pro illegal citizen, and pro tax-------There I lumped the liberals for you too;)

I think people are entitled to religion btw....my kids go to a religious school and daycare btw. What I dont think is that religion is the answer to every question and should not trump thought and fact.

As a side track, here's a little eye-opening stuff about global warming, you know that thing that the lying, cheating, baby killing left calls scientific consensus.

A lot of folks fell for this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

laker1963

beatnic:
As a side track, here's a little eye-opening stuff about global warming, you know that thing that the lying, cheating, baby killing left calls scientific consensus.

A lot of folks fell for this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

Or a LOT of people find it convenient for business or a lot less scary to think about in those terms. We can all put our blinders on and let the people in power take care of us can we?

Only the best of the best get elected in the US Doug....not sure about Canada;) Thats why our approval rates are around 12%

laker1963

Vulchor:
Only the best of the best get elected in the US Doug....not sure about Canada;) Thats why our approval rates are around 12%

Actually, we have a fascist for a PM right now. I actually look with envy to the US system at the moment.

We have a socialist;)

beatnic:
in any argument with the far left, the English language is bastardized and mis-used to get their points across. Adjectives thrown in for ridicule, secular use of religious terms, The Hitler, Bush, slavery comparisons, All of these are merely their attempt to lump their opponents into one big baddie (i.e.: old, fat, white guys).
JMO/

Absolutely, I HATE when Rush does that. You are referring to Mr. Limbaugh, aren't you?

Amos Umwhat:
beatnic:
in any argument with the far left, the English language is bastardized and mis-used to get their points across. Adjectives thrown in for ridicule, secular use of religious terms, The Hitler, Bush, slavery comparisons, All of these are merely their attempt to lump their opponents into one big baddie (i.e.: old, fat, white guys).
JMO/
Absolutely, I HATE when Rush does that. You are referring to Mr. Limbaugh, aren't you?

You listen to Rush?

beatnic:
You listen to Rush?

And Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck, and Jim Bohannon, and read Jim Hightower, and Thomas Sowell. No one side has a monopoly on truth, or a complete vision of what's best in all circumstances.

y2pascoe

Amos Umwhat:
beatnic:
You listen to Rush?
And Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck, and Jim Bohannon, and read Jim Hightower, and Thomas Sowell. No one side has a monopoly on truth, or a complete vision of what's best in all circumstances.

No Rachel Maddow?

phobicsquirrel

beatnic:
For every Soros, there's a Koch.

actually there isn't. In fact there is a very low turnout of "left" rich people giving to Obama's campaign. The reason is a lot of them don't have the money that the "right" richies, and/or they don't think that giving all that money is the best thing to do with their money. The handful of rich people backing the Romney campaign are doing so for an investment.

Also Soro's is one of the few multi billionaires that are on the left, though he doesn't invest him self or his money to screw over the public and rape the land and buy politicians. thing is, if you look at a lot of the wealthy people who align them selves with the "left" they do a lot of work for others and donate a lot to charities. However compared to the "right" where they spend a lot of their money on influencing policy to keep them getting higher profits. Also a lot of them have money in things that hurt us, ie fracking, oil, nuclear power, prisons, and drug companies. Also the enslavement of our economy.

y2pascoe:
Amos Umwhat:
beatnic:
You listen to Rush?
And Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck, and Jim Bohannon, and read Jim Hightower, and Thomas Sowell. No one side has a monopoly on truth, or a complete vision of what's best in all circumstances.
No Rachel Maddow?

Gotta draw the line somewhere:/ Truly, she gets on my nerves.

JDH

"The Law is an Ass."

Charles Dickens

Money is currency used for the buying and selling of material goods and services. It is not free, and it never will be.

Speech is the expression, by human beings, of thoughts and ideas. It is guranteed to be Free by our Constitution.

<BR George Orwell could not have devised a more approproiate "doublespeak".

Marker

beatnic:
As a side track, here's a little eye-opening stuff about global warming, you know that thing that the lying, cheating, baby killing left calls scientific consensus.

A lot of folks fell for this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

In Canada the Toronto Sun is considered a tabloid read by most. Anything put on it's pages is better used for lining a pet cage than putting into memory.

Marker:
beatnic:
As a side track, here's a little eye-opening stuff about global warming, you know that thing that the lying, cheating, baby killing left calls scientific consensus.

A lot of folks fell for this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

In Canada the Toronto Sun is considered a tabloid read by most. Anything put on it's pages is better used for lining a pet cage than putting into memory.

It doesn't change the truth.

An inconvienent truth?

Vulchor:
An inconvienent truth?

LOL. Have a good evening Vulch.

laker1963

beatnic:
Marker:
beatnic:
As a side track, here's a little eye-opening stuff about global warming, you know that thing that the lying, cheating, baby killing left calls scientific consensus.

A lot of folks fell for this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

In Canada the Toronto Sun is considered a tabloid read by most. Anything put on it's pages is better used for lining a pet cage than putting into memory.
It doesn't change the truth.

I didn't know it was declared a truth! Wow now I can sleep better knowing that! Thank you.
FYI most birds refuse to even *** on the Toronto Sun which is the northern version of Fox News.

laker1963:
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FYI most birds refuse to even *** on the Toronto Sun which is the northern version of Fox News.

Now that made me laugh, thanks, I needed that!

y2pascoe

Amos Umwhat:
laker1963:
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FYI most birds refuse to even *** on the Toronto Sun which is the northern version of Fox News.
Now that made me laugh, thanks, I needed that!

I read the article, and couldn't help but notice this excerpt from it:

"Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says it’s now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Gore’s) were incorrect."

So, he's not really denying that there is in effect an occurring greenhouse effect, just that the severity of it is much less than he originally concluded.

And I gotta pee.

Roberto99

y2pascoe:
Amos Umwhat:
laker1963:
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FYI most birds refuse to even *** on the Toronto Sun which is the northern version of Fox News.
Now that made me laugh, thanks, I needed that!
I read the article, and couldn't help but notice this excerpt from it:

"Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says it’s now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Gore’s) were incorrect."

So, he's not really denying that there is in effect an occurring greenhouse effect, just that the severity of it is much less than he originally concluded.

And I gotta pee.

Saw an interesting story on Urbanization in the last century and its theorized effect on global warming. :-)