Nut jobs are nut jobs... Take away the ar15's....they'll make bombs. I mean honestly....if this kid had no access to guns, you think he wouldn't have bombed someone? Blaming these types of crimes on guns is ignorant, crazy is crazy....
Yep, that's the point I made in my first post in this thread.
I am not talking about having personal protection firearms in the home. I have no problem with that. (I have a Remington 870 18" 20 guage pump shotgun for home protection). I'm talking about the unregulated sale of assult weapons and ammunition. The Supreme Court has said that the sale of firearms can be regulated. It is time to have a civil conversation about how to do that.
I am not talking about having personal protection firearms in the home. I have no problem with that. (I have a Remington 870 18" 20 guage pump shotgun for home protection). I'm talking about the unregulated sale of assult weapons and ammunition. The Supreme Court has said that the sale of firearms can be regulated. It is time to have a civil conversation about how to do that.
In all honesty, I would have no problem with that discussion. While I know a ton of my Frieda love their AR's, I can't say I will ever own one for personal protection.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
it is easier to abuse power if the people are not armed to fight back.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
it is easier to abuse power if the people are not armed to fight back.
We could never rebel against our country or military, which is a big bit of the abuse I am referring to because he would be squashed like Ruby Ridge or other places and made to look like nuts. You go with the status quo here, or you are branded.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
it is easier to abuse power if the people are not armed to fight back.
We could never rebel against our country or military, which is a big bit of the abuse I am referring to because he would be squashed like Ruby Ridge or other places and made to look like nuts. You go with the status quo here, or you are branded.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
it is easier to abuse power if the people are not armed to fight back.
We could never rebel against our country or military, which is a big bit of the abuse I am referring to because he would be squashed like Ruby Ridge or other places and made to look like nuts. You go with the status quo here, or you are branded.
i wonder what percentage of the military would Actually attack US citizens. i feel that i am veering off topic. again... interesting to think about.
Never ceases to amaze me how hard people will fight for their guns. Guns, religion, abortion, and a few others close like race and death penalty have a way of riling up people beyond belief. This shooting proves that. Its a great talking point for politicians to distract us from real, non-emotional, non religious based issues that impact society but are boring------like the disparity of wealth and abuse of power.
it is easier to abuse power if the people are not armed to fight back.
We could never rebel against our country or military, which is a big bit of the abuse I am referring to because he would be squashed like Ruby Ridge or other places and made to look like nuts. You go with the status quo here, or you are branded.
i wonder what percentage of the military would Actually attack US citizens. i feel that i am veering off topic. again... interesting to think about.
Washington used Federal troops to squash the whiskey rebellion in Pennsylvania, Lincoln used Federal troops to preserve the United States against Confederate Forces, Eisenhower used the 101 Airborne to enforce Federal Law over State Law in Little Rock, AK, and National Guard troops killed students at Kent State in 1970. Personally, I think the discipline is so strong in our troops, there would be very little problem if they were required to put down another rebellion against the United States of America. After all, they have all taken an oath to preserve and defend the US against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Very interesting question Kuz....but I think I agree wiuth JDH. And to add to what he said, if the "powers that be" said it was a rebellion---I think the military would follow even if they didnt personally agree. So could there ever really be a "rebellion" for a just cause....between the military might and spin machine by the "Masters of War"....I doubt it.
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