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dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
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  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    This is one of those things a person develops based on what works for them. When you are talking about resting, I like to give mine 2-3 weeks just to settle from being in a different environment and then in transit. You'll see 6 weeks from some people as that will give the cigars ample time to acclimate well to your specific humidor conditions. That's the main reasoning as I've understood it.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    j0z3r:
    This is one of those things a person develops based on what works for them. When you are talking about resting, I like to give mine 2-3 weeks just to settle from being in a different environment and then in transit. You'll see 6 weeks from some people as that will give the cigars ample time to acclimate well to your specific humidor conditions. That's the main reasoning as I've understood it.
    Why would I need it to acclimate well to my humidor conditions when I'm about to light it on fire an suck on it? Is it because it gives my cigars a consistent baseline temperature and humidity level on which to experience the flavor/burn? I could see it being much easier (and more valid) to compare two stick that have had the chance to acclimate to identical conditions. But as far as the quality and character of an individual smoke, I don't see how acclimation to my humidor is particularly relevant. (forgive me, I'm a bit slow sometimes).
  • j0z3rj0z3r Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 9,403
    Well, like I said it falls under one of those preference things. Some of the reasons I've seen are that some people feel cigars smoke better at a lower humidity than they were stored at, for example if cigar.com stores their cigars at 72% RH but I like to smoke them at 63%, then letting them rest in my preferred conditions will be the way I'd want to go.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    madurofan:
    Damn duty did you have to call me out? I like to think I am not pretentious at all, let me know if I am though.
    No way Madurofan.. I don't think you're pretentious at all. That's what I like about this forum, is it seems everybody on here thinks rationally about the hobby and understands the reasons behind preferences of one way versus another. I just wanted to make sure I was clear that I wasn't talking about aging cigars, and I've seen you mention that you have quite a collection of cigars you intend to age. Like I said, I fully understand the concept of aging, but resting seems different to me.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    Oh, yeah.. I forgot to mention that your response was spot-on what I was looking for. I can definitely see the change in humidity levels being something that, through preference, someone would want to allow their cigars to rest a bit. Although I'm with you that this shouldn't take any longer than a week. And j0z3r pretty much hit on the same point. It's preference. Since I have no knowledge or experience in this yet, I will use the summer to play around with it a bit. Thanks again for the thorough response. Sorry again for calling you out... I just wanted to razz a bit because I knew you'd see my post sooner rather than later :)
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Don't apologize man, like I said I meant to put LOL. Try what I did using 5 of your favorite cheaper cigars. If you're like me and can't remember your own name half the time, take notes on each cigar as you smoke it.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Really you consider up to 18 months resting? Our definition of resting must vary because IMO 18 months would drastically change the flavor aof most any cigar.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    the diploma doent change that much after 18 months. and cigars in tubes age very slowly. 18 months wont do much there either.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Just curious, is this just your opinion or is it based on professional research? I'm referring to whats aging vs. resting and overage.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Well tubos cigars are tubed for that purpose to retain the same characteristics. I've seen a couple manufacturers say to age a tubo you have to take it out of the tube.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    hmmm ... maybe .... did you see my post before that one?
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    i wanna say it was in a pod cast. I cant tell you what one... or was it on the old amback forum. Honestly i dont know, i just remember alex talking about very well aged tubos one day.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Do it man that'd be awesome.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    The tubos thing is fine, I've heard similiar I want to know if your scale of aging vs. resting vs. overage is based on research or opinion? Bc I strongly disagree with what you're calling resting but I'd like to see any research you may have done. I could likely be missing somethign.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    oh... thats pure opinion. I just foud that one year oa a cigar that is full flavored (most of what i smoke) does very little. I have a rule for my aging humidor: if its been in there less than a year i cant take it out to smoke.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Ok thats cool. If its opinion thats understandable. I found that Olde World Reserve Natural aged VERY poorly after only 8 months. It lost a lot of its pepper and turned from Earthy to barnyard. Just my opinion but the same is true with an MX2 after only a couple months it loses its pepper.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    I'm also about to do the same thing you do though seperate my humis between aging cigars and resting cigars. right now they're just scattered about and the dates of entry are not exact just kind of month year written on a piece of paper on top of the humis.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    when i get a bunch of cigars i take one oe each kind and put it in the aging humi. so far its worked out well. because of this i have had several aged cigars that i otherwise wouldnt have had.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Piece of advice don't rest that illusione too long it does not rest nor age well. I've read interviews where the guy that came up with it specifically states he designed a cigar that was supposed to be at its peak when it hits the shelf. He's a tobacconist owner so he wanted a cigar to hand his customers to smoke right that minute.
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    Thats what I'm thinking of doing basically. I've also thought about tagging my cigars in case I stick two of the same cigar in there I'll know which is which.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    madurofan:
    Piece of advice don't rest that illusione too long it does not rest nor age well. I've read interviews where the guy that came up with it specifically states he designed a cigar that was supposed to be at its peak when it hits the shelf. He's a tobacconist owner so he wanted a cigar to hand his customers to smoke right that minute.
    ill smoke that early next week then.
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