IRAN

phobicsquirrel

So how many of you think that the United States should attack Iran? I know the pro Israelite mob is pushing for this as is Romney but why? Polls show Americans don't want it and really we can't afford it. I mean both for money and life of our soldiers, hell they have been stretched so thin. Also why do we need to be an Empire? I mean our own borders need major work. I mean at the rate things are going we don't need a atomic bomb to hit our cities, we are already destroying them.

Rain

It would, in my opinion, be the end of the world. Make no mistake, Iran has nukes.

jthanatos

I think it is a terrible idea to attack Iran. If for no other reason than the one thing the middle east needs right now is MORE instability...

Gray4lines

You say we can't afford it, but Keynesian economists might say another war is just the thing our economy needs. Demand is demand, whether it's for guns or goods.

phobicsquirrel

Gray4lines:

You say we can't afford it, but Keynesian economists might say another war is just the thing our economy needs. Demand is demand, whether it's for guns or goods.

true

fla-gypsy

Maybe we should just wait for them to attack us. Let me add to this discussion. If Iran attacks Israel, should we get involved?

beatnic

I haven't hear Romney say he wants to bomb Iran. Where did that come from? Now, Israel may want to. And they would probably like US backing because they used to consider us an ally. But I haven't heard any politician say we should. Saying they support Israel doesn't mean we support them bombing Iran. However, the Iranians have said multiple times, by Imams and the Ahmadinnerjacket guy, that as soon as they have an atomic bomb, they will bomb Israel. Do you believe them?

fla-gypsy

I have no doubt they will at some point probably when we show some wavering of support for Israel that Ahmidinnerjacket (LOL, thanks for that one) will carry out his often announced intentions of anihilating Israel particularry if he can get other Arab thiefdoms to help him. History tells us it will happen again just as it did in 67 and 73 but this time it will go nuclear

kuzi16

Rain:

It would, in my opinion, be the end of the world. Make no mistake, Iran has nukes.

if they had them they would have used them already.

Rain

kuzi16:

Rain:

It would, in my opinion, be the end of the world. Make no mistake, Iran has nukes.

if they had them they would have used them already.

There is no way you can prove this point. Most Countries that have nukes have never used them (minus testing). You don't think any nukes made it out of Russia during the 90s? Suitcase bombs? However, nor can I prove that Iran does indeed have nukes

JDH

fla-gypsy:

Maybe we should just wait for them to attack us. Let me add to this discussion. If Iran attacks Israel, should we get involved?

"...Maybe we should just wait for them to attack us. ..." Yes. Exactly. We should not attack any country until they have attacked us. Precisely right. "...If Iran attacks Israel, should we get involved?..." Is Israel part of the United States? They are an Ally, without question. If Israel is attacked, and they ask for our aid, I am positive that it will be provided.

kuzi16

The Kid

fla-gypsy:

I have no doubt they will at some point probably when we show some wavering of support for Israel that Ahmidinnerjacket (LOL, thanks for that one) will carry out his often announced intentions of anihilating Israel particularry if he can get other Arab thiefdoms to help him. History tells us it will happen again just as it did in 67 and 73 but this time it will go nuclear

I believe the Israeli's will strike first in a premptive attack, Iran has probably developed the capability of enriching uranium to weapons grade but they lack a substantial delivery system, we will not let them develop their weapons program to where they can deliver an ICBM. Isreal will do what they have to do

rzaman

Luko

Didn't our special forces turn the lights out on two Iranian facilities within the last week or so? Maybe I'm naive, but I have full faith in our military's ability to make Iran look like Wiley Coyote at any time our choosing, without leaving so much as a track on the ground. Iamadinnerjacket's 15 minutes is just about over.

bigfnsteve

bigfnsteve

Dupes

Amos Umwhat

fla-gypsy

I have to say that the Iranian leader Imadiinerjacket is a hoot and keeps the Drudgereport well supplied with material. I wonder sometimes if some of these countries understand the true destructive capability possessed by the US military, heck I'm not sure I understand the destructive capability of the conventional and nuclear weapons that can be delivered by our military in an all out assault

JDH

fla-gypsy:

I have to say that the Iranian leader Imadiinerjacket is a hoot and keeps the Drudgereport well supplied with material. I wonder sometimes if some of these countries understand the true destructive capability possessed by the US military, heck I'm not sure I understand the destructive capability of the conventional and nuclear weapons that can be delivered by our military in an all out assault

...and I pray to God that we never find out what that destructive capability is.

raisindot

beatnic:

I haven't hear Romney say he wants to bomb Iran. Where did that come from? Now, Israel may want to. And they would probably like US backing because they used to consider us an ally. But I haven't heard any politician say we should. Saying they support Israel doesn't mean we support them bombing Iran. However, the Iranians have said multiple times, by Imams and the Ahmadinnerjacket guy, that as soon as they have an atomic bomb, they will bomb Israel. Do you believe them?

Actually, Iran has never said it would nuke Israel (and I'm Jewish, and pro-Israel, but not rabidly so), nor has it said it wold unilaterally attack Israel. It wants everyone else to do so, of course, but then again what middle eastern country doesn't want Israel destroyed? Iran has never even admitted it is pursuing nuclear weapons (although it is quite obvious they are). As much as I despise Iran, I don't think a nuclear Iran would risk nuking Israel, which has at least 20-100 nukes and would totally obliterate every last inch of Iran if Iran tried it. Even the crazy nations (North Korea, Pakistan) that have far more advanced nuclear capabilities than Iran haven't seriously threatened to launch nukes at their enemies. Balance of terror is still an effective deterrent, although if any of Iran's nukes gets in the hands of their terrorist clients that's a whole new ball game. Personally, much as I'd like to see the current government of Iran wiped away, I'm not in favor of either Israel or the U.S. attacking it. I just don't think carpet bombing will do any damage to Iran's nuclear sites--they're too well buried underground of dispersed in civilian areas. I'd be much more in favor or CIA or Mossad agents infiltrating these facilities and sabotaging them from within. Now, if Iran tries to close down the Persian Gulf to shipping, then that's another story--the U.S. Navy should wipe Iran's flotilla down to the last rowboat. It would probably take about five minutes.

Vulchor

To answer the question by Pheebs bluntly, I am against action in Iran. To answer Gypsy, I am also against assisting Isreal unilaterally and without first being asked.

phobicsquirrel

beatnic

phobicsquirrel

Well believe what you want but the right have made a lot of noise about not using the military on Iran. That party has had a hard on for war for some time. Homeland Security, TSA uses as of now, Iraq, Afghanistan and the huge flux of private security firms being used in combat areas. Make no mistake, they want war, they even lied their asses off to get into Iraq.

phobicsquirrel

fla-gypsy:

Maybe we should just wait for them to attack us. Let me add to this discussion. If Iran attacks Israel, should we get involved?

No. We should only get involved if the rest of the UN and Security council does. Iran is a hornets nest. Russia and China wouldn't let them get taken out easily. So what if Iran gets a nuke. China has them, Russia has them. Going to war would be bad, and if Israel wants to attack them, they should do it, but it's on them. They talk tuff but only due to the US. I really think their own issues need to be resolved with all the senseless killing they have and are doing.

phobicsquirrel

Amos Umwhat

Amos Umwhat

fla-gypsy:

I have to say that the Iranian leader Imadiinerjacket is a hoot and keeps the Drudgereport well supplied with material. I wonder sometimes if some of these countries understand the true destructive capability possessed by the US military, heck I'm not sure I understand the destructive capability of the conventional and nuclear weapons that can be delivered by our military in an all out assault

He is hilarious to listen to, I must admit. What a moron.

beatnic

fla-gypsy

I have read quotes from Imadinnerjacket that he intends to "eliminate", "remove", "wipe clean" Isreal. I don't think he has the kahonies to mess with them for real. Each time some of Isreal's "peace loving" neighbors attack them they always seem worse off afterward and run to the UN to try to get their territory back. Phobic's world view is entertaining to me I guess because I have never known many liberals. They are not very plentiful in north Florida. We happily to cling to our guns and Bibles, you know the type.