Medicare and Doctors

jadelt

mmccartneydc

marineatbn03

MTuccelli

mmccartneydc

MTuccelli

Got it Doc

Amos Umwhat

jadelt

mmccartneydc

phobicsquirrel

Vulchor

Well Pheebs at least we have the best health care----oh wait. Well we do have the longest life expec-----oh wait. At least we have the lowest infant mortal...oh wait. We do have the lowest amont of preventable deat-----oh wait. Should I go on?

marineatbn03

My point is this, when a hospital can offer a "cash" discount to pay your bill, it shows the level of over charging and inflating prices. My wife recently went to the emergency room for a kidney stone. No over night, only an x-ray and some pain meds. She drove herself to the hospital, so no ambulance ride. The bill: 6000. They said if she paid cash it was 2800. Thats a big problem to me.

mmccartneydc

marineatbn03:

My point is this, when a hospital can offer a "cash" discount to pay your bill, it shows the level of over charging and inflating prices. My wife recently went to the emergency room for a kidney stone. No over night, only an x-ray and some pain meds. She drove herself to the hospital, so no ambulance ride. The bill: 6000. They said if she paid cash it was 2800. Thats a big problem to me.

I understand the frustration, but remember that there are countless examples where the hospital gets ZERO reimbursement for services rendered.

marineatbn03

I understand that too Doc. I just don't think that others should have to pay for it. When I lived in Florida, the price of health insurance was asronomical. For me, my wife, and son it was over $1000 a month. I dropped it. I could go to urgent care for $80 and get taken care of. Now, I know the benefit of having insurance is when something major occurs, i.e. cancer, major surgery etc., but it should be made more affordable. And I honestly, maybe even due to ignorance, can't see why health care can't be made more affordable.

mmccartneydc

marineatbn03:

I understand that too Doc. I just don't think that others should have to pay for it. When I lived in Florida, the price of health insurance was asronomical. For me, my wife, and son it was over $1000 a month. I dropped it. I could go to urgent care for $80 and get taken care of. Now, I know the benefit of having insurance is when something major occurs, i.e. cancer, major surgery etc., but it should be made more affordable. And I honestly, maybe even due to ignorance, can't see why health care can't be made more affordable.

Well, it really depends on your stance doesn't it? Should those with more pay more, so that those with less can pay less? Or should there be one rate that applies to all, straight across the board?

marineatbn03

I agree with equal. I can deal with that. But I don't agree that it should be forced on everyone. Not sure you can have your cake and eat it too, but something needs to give.

mmccartneydc

marineatbn03:

I agree with equal. I can deal with that. But I don't agree that it should be forced on everyone. Not sure you can have your cake and eat it too, but something needs to give.

I agree that something needs to give, and please don't think that I am being combative. I believe that "healthy" exchange of ideas is precisely what is needed. The problem with equal or the same across the board means that those that can not pay even a lower rate will be turned away. If they don't own anything, and don't have the cash, then who "eats" the cost of care?

marineatbn03

I don't think you are being combative. I have a good friend who is a Trauma surgeon, and he was complaining about the same thing, having to eat expenses of someone who can not pay. Devils advocate here, are doctors over paid? Is that a factor to the cost of healthcare?

Amos Umwhat

mmccartneydc

jadelt

Just frosts my a** when I see the 'poor' people in the waiting room of the ER chatting on their iPhone. People have their priorities all screwed up. They can afford an iPhone but cant afford to take care of their own health. Heck, why should they when someone else will pay.

mmccartneydc

jadelt:

Just frosts my a** when I see the 'poor' people in the waiting room of the ER chatting on their iPhone. People have their priorities all screwed up. They can afford an iPhone but cant afford to take care of their own health. Heck, why should they when someone else will pay.

Don't get me wrong, I see people for free ALL the time! But I feel the same way about cigarette smokers. I'm not gonna cut you some slack on your bill so that you can go down the street and spend what I saved you on a carton of smokes!

Amos Umwhat

JDH

JDH

beatnic

phobicsquirrel

marineatbn03:

My point is this, when a hospital can offer a "cash" discount to pay your bill, it shows the level of over charging and inflating prices. My wife recently went to the emergency room for a kidney stone. No over night, only an x-ray and some pain meds. She drove herself to the hospital, so no ambulance ride. The bill: 6000. They said if she paid cash it was 2800. Thats a big problem to me.

damn!

phobicsquirrel

Vulchor:

Well Pheebs at least we have the best health care----oh wait. Well we do have the longest life expec-----oh wait. At least we have the lowest infant mortal...oh wait. We do have the lowest amont of preventable deat-----oh wait. Should I go on?

What I don't understand is that the generation that went to ww2 and largely is on SS and medicare are the one's who support the GOP. I don't know if it's just because it is what they use to do back in the day or that they really are hypocrites. I mean they created the greatest nation on earth and pushed the US into the 1st spot, they built the middle class, created good union jobs, created the interstates, pushed SS, medicare and a bunch of other things. Now so many of them seem to want to destroy that by putting people in office that do it. The empathy and compassion have left this country it seems. I mean what has to happen for it to come back. The real thing is I hate people, I really do but I think for a country to succeed it needs to take care of it's people otherwise it will fail.

JDH

Amos Umwhat

JDH