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Man, that thing has a lot if signatures. Back when it was written, it may have worked. Troops and civilians all had the same weapons...not too many civilians now with jets, tanks, automatic weapons. Plus, somehow, even if it passes the Federal Government will call it illegal. To add to this... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/secission-petitions-filed-20-states-190210006.html My favorite part of the article is this.. Not everybody who wants to secede is polite enough to write a petition. Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter in which he urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union. "We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years."

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I dont think it will play out at all really, its such a minority of people and more of a story that is sensational news than anything actual.

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God Bless Texas! but our nut case Governor will never approve it.

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Found this online, an interesting read. The first union of the original 13 colonies was effected by the Articles of Confederation, adopted in 1781. The articles established a confederation of sovereign states in a permanent union. The "permanence" lasted only until 1788, when 11 states withdrew from the confederation and ratified the new Constitution, which became effective on March 4, 1789. The founding fathers recognized the defects in the Articles of Confederation, learned from these defects, and scrapped the articles in favor of the "more perfect union" found in the Constitution. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the union of the states being permanent. This was not an oversight by any means. Indeed, when New York, Rhode Island, and Virginia ratified the Constitution, they specifically stated that they reserved the right to resume the governmental powers granted to the United States. Their claim to the right of secession was understood and agreed to by the other ratifiers, including George Washington, who presided over the Constitutional Convention and was also a delegate from Virginia. In his book Life of Webster Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge writes, "It is safe to say that there was not a man in the country, from Washington and Hamilton to Clinton and Mason, who did not regard the new system as an experiment from which each and every State had a right to peaceably withdraw." A textbook used at West Point before the Civil War, A View of the Constitution, written by Judge William Rawle, states, "The secession of a State depends on the will of the people of such a State." Well into the 19th century, the United States was still viewed by many as an experimental confederation from which states could secede just as they had earlier acceded to it. It took a bloody war to prove them wrong. Fascinating Fact: It is significant that no Confederate leader was ever brought to trial for treason. A trial would have brought a verdict on the constitutional legality of secession. Federal prosecutors were satisfied with the verdict that had been decided in battle.

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But I would argue that the Founding Fathers separated themselves from the government they were under, and laid out their reasons for doing so in the Declaration of Independence. And essentially they said they did it because the government was not handling it's job, and handling their issues in a way they should have been. So they said they had the right to leave, and started the Revolution. Got that from yahoo answers, but I agree with it. After all, "No taxation without representation" kind of started the whole thing. In essence, people not agreeing with their government.

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