More Woman Sue to Serve in Combat....

phobicsquirrel

Rain

I was all for women in Combat Arms before I joined. All I can say is, from the females I've served with...most of them would not make it in Combat Arms. Trying to be objective, I'm not sure that it stops them from advancing...I've had several female officers above me. Are there as many female officers as male officers? Nope. Maybe because women make up 14%ish of the military?

marineatbn03

I think they should try it, just to finally put this to bed. But when they do, the females must pass all the same tests at the same standards as the men. I have known a few females in the military that could pass the physical fitness standards, but I think the biggest problem is the gender mix. It is going to create a distraction. The way I know this is when I worked at The Basic School, an officer training school. We used to opfor the new Lt's and they were mixed gender classes. On more than one occassion we snuck up and attacked the Lt's only to find some humping in the fighting hole going on.

beatnic

webmost

Amos Umwhat

beatnic

Its' been proven that women are better mothers than men. I don't see men lining up to sue anybody for that.

phobicsquirrel

skweekz

phobicsquirrel

well that's good. some where I heard she was but glad that didn't happen.

marineatbn03

james40

It's always been my opinion that matters such as these should not be be decided upon by people not directly affected by the decision. Who am I as civilian to tell those in the military who should fight and who shouldn't when I have no direct knowledge of the implications this would or wouldn't cause?

beatnic

james40:

It's always been my opinion that matters such as these should not be be decided upon by people not directly affected by the decision. Who am I as civilian to tell those in the military who should fight and who shouldn't when I have no direct knowledge of the implications this would or wouldn't cause?

I would agree. Let the military decide.

webmost

raisindot

james40:

It's always been my opinion that matters such as these should not be be decided upon by people not directly affected by the decision. Who am I as civilian to tell those in the military who should fight and who shouldn't when I have no direct knowledge of the implications this would or wouldn't cause?

With all due respect, sir, this is exactly the same argument the military used when opposing the integration of the armed forces, and those who opposed integration used many of the same excuses--blacks weren't smart enough or brave enough to fight; mixing black and white soldiers in units would cause distractions and decrease their effectiveness, etc. It took a civilian--President Harry Truman--to force the military to embrace the 20th century, and it only took one war--Korea--to demonstrate that integrating the military was a total non-issue. Today, no one thinks twice about men of different ethnic backgrounds fighting in combat together, and it's probably been one of the strongest strategies used to break down racial barriers in the U.S. The bravery and valor of gay soldiers in recent conflicts has made the long-held and now ended discriminatory practices against them a moot issue as well. Who knows--in ten years, people may question why women were disallowed from combat roles as well.

Rain

raisindot:

james40:

It's always been my opinion that matters such as these should not be be decided upon by people not directly affected by the decision. Who am I as civilian to tell those in the military who should fight and who shouldn't when I have no direct knowledge of the implications this would or wouldn't cause?

With all due respect, sir, this is exactly the same argument the military used when opposing the integration of the armed forces, and those who opposed integration used many of the same excuses--blacks weren't smart enough or brave enough to fight; mixing black and white soldiers in units would cause distractions and decrease their effectiveness, etc. It took a civilian--President Harry Truman--to force the military to embrace the 20th century, and it only took one war--Korea--to demonstrate that integrating the military was a total non-issue. Today, no one thinks twice about men of different ethnic backgrounds fighting in combat together, and it's probably been one of the strongest strategies used to break down racial barriers in the U.S. The bravery and valor of gay soldiers in recent conflicts has made the long-held and now ended discriminatory practices against them a moot issue as well. Who knows--in ten years, people may question why women were disallowed from combat roles as well.

My team leader in Iraq was a gay male, we never had a problem. I made it clear to him from the start that I was not gay, and he respected it. We had a great relationship, both at work and off duty (haha, no jokes!). I respected his lifestyle, and he respected mine. Obviously, if either one of has had pushed the issue, the results could have been bad.