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  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    pelirrojo:
    Also, on topic, I recieved my first paycheck of the year today. I had recieved a 3% pay increase last August. This was in addition to a 2% increase 2 Augusts before. My take home pay is now roughly equal to what it was when I started this job almost 3 and a half years ago. However, my bills and the price of goods here have gone up. I am living the American dream.
    I make less now than I did 5 years ago doing the same job. Thank You Mr Obama (dem) and thank you Governor A$$hole (Rick Scott--Repub).
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
  • raisindotraisindot Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 936
    Vulchor:
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
    Gotta ask--why is this either Obama's or Scott's fault, as opposed to, say, the management of your company for not giving you COLA or any other salary increases during this time? My guess is that if their senior managers are like those at most companies, they've given themselves huge bonuses for keeping labor costs low while shipping jobs overseas. This is certainly what happened in every single company that I have ever worked for.
  • pelirrojopelirrojo Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,520
    I haven't seen a COLA or step increase ever, just arbitrary percentage increases which I guess could be considered COLA. I work for a local gov't entity. We've managed to reduce our budget by upwards of 30 or 40 percent and still can't get a real raise. All the while my checks are getting smaller and my cost of living is increasing. I picked a bad month to quit drinking.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    raisindot:
    Vulchor:
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
    Gotta ask--why is this either Obama's or Scott's fault, as opposed to, say, the management of your company for not giving you COLA or any other salary increases during this time? My guess is that if their senior managers are like those at most companies, they've given themselves huge bonuses for keeping labor costs low while shipping jobs overseas. This is certainly what happened in every single company that I have ever worked for.
    Well considering I work for the state....Scott is the management of my "company", lol.
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    Vulchor:
    raisindot:
    Vulchor:
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
    Gotta ask--why is this either Obama's or Scott's fault, as opposed to, say, the management of your company for not giving you COLA or any other salary increases during this time? My guess is that if their senior managers are like those at most companies, they've given themselves huge bonuses for keeping labor costs low while shipping jobs overseas. This is certainly what happened in every single company that I have ever worked for.
    Well considering I work for the state....Scott is the management of my "company", lol.
    That explains a lot. LOL
  • raisindotraisindot Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 936
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
  • raisindotraisindot Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 936
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    beatnic:
    Vulchor:
    raisindot:
    Vulchor:
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
    Gotta ask--why is this either Obama's or Scott's fault, as opposed to, say, the management of your company for not giving you COLA or any other salary increases during this time? My guess is that if their senior managers are like those at most companies, they've given themselves huge bonuses for keeping labor costs low while shipping jobs overseas. This is certainly what happened in every single company that I have ever worked for.
    Well considering I work for the state....Scott is the management of my "company", lol.
    That explains a lot. LOL
    such as?
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    Vulchor:
    beatnic:
    Vulchor:
    raisindot:
    Vulchor:
    Although I have not received any increases throughout that time...not even COLA. Thanks again Gov.
    Gotta ask--why is this either Obama's or Scott's fault, as opposed to, say, the management of your company for not giving you COLA or any other salary increases during this time? My guess is that if their senior managers are like those at most companies, they've given themselves huge bonuses for keeping labor costs low while shipping jobs overseas. This is certainly what happened in every single company that I have ever worked for.
    Well considering I work for the state....Scott is the management of my "company", lol.
    That explains a lot. LOL
    such as?
    Our differing views on economics and governmental policy. I work in the private sector for myself through my s-corp. You work for the government. Isn't that the grand argument of our times, the relative sizes of each? Private vs. public
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    I dont want large govt. But I am an investigator for the abuse, neglect, explotation, and self neglect of the elderly and disabled-----these are many of the jobs or type of jobs that "everyone" says are wasteful and typical of govt. leaching off people. But be sure to say what a travesty it is too when grandma is found om the floor in her own ***, or someone is sexually abusing their grandfather in a nursing home.
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    Vulchor:
    I dont want large govt. But I am an investigator for the abuse, neglect, explotation, and self neglect of the elderly and disabled-----these are many of the jobs or type of jobs that "everyone" says are wasteful and typical of govt. leaching off people. But be sure to say what a travesty it is too when grandma is found om the floor in her own ***, or someone is sexually abusing their grandfather in a nursing home.
    Yes, but you would like a government big enough to support you in doing the work. I'm not minimizing what you do. It is quite nobel. But, we see issues through a different paradigm. FWIW, I'd never let one of my parents enter a nursing home. In this case, I can do a much better job than any government ever could. And that is the basis for everything I do and teach.
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    If you go back and adopt Clinton's tax structure, you also need to roll back government spending to the levels that he had. We have a spending problem.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    beatnic:
    Vulchor:
    I dont want large govt. But I am an investigator for the abuse, neglect, explotation, and self neglect of the elderly and disabled-----these are many of the jobs or type of jobs that "everyone" says are wasteful and typical of govt. leaching off people. But be sure to say what a travesty it is too when grandma is found om the floor in her own ***, or someone is sexually abusing their grandfather in a nursing home.
    Yes, but you would like a government big enough to support you in doing the work. I'm not minimizing what you do. It is quite nobel. But, we see issues through a different paradigm. FWIW, I'd never let one of my parents enter a nursing home. In this case, I can do a much better job than any government ever could. And that is the basis for everything I do and teach.
    If your mother or father has a stroke and is left incapacitated, or is suffering the effects of end stage alzheimers unless you are a well trained medical professional I dont think many people can do even close to as well as a nursing home. And if the govt. doesnt want to support my work thats fine, but then dont b!tch when the elderly and kids get the $hit kicked out of them or they get molested and there is no one assisgned to look into it. I mean afterall, corportate profits are much more important that that stuff anyway.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    BTW Beat, that isnt meant to be meant as an attack on you directly and I am being reactionary---I understand that. But the topic is a difficult one and it just seems people in general are very quick to say decrease govt. but dont seem to think of some of govt. duties and the relatively small salaries people do these jobs for and are in charge of protecting some (at least people want us to believe) is a very important population.
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    First, the medical professionals are privately paid and the nursing homes are covered as well with many elderly paying out of pocket for the care....sometimes at 7k per month or more. So no govt there. As far as when a medpical professional beats up Grandma, bad things happen because people can be bad. Also, the extended families, specifically daughters and sons, commit the majority of abuse, neglect, and exploitation of the elderly. Blame the stress, blame greed, blame training, I dont care but those are facts. While I do agree the scenario of middle aged kids caring for parents is great...how many middle aged people can provide 24/7 care and supervision for the elderly these days, when in fact so many elderly are even having to continue to work to feed themselves?
  • beatnicbeatnic Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,133
    Well the one thing I can be certain of here is that you don't make enough money. But I don't think taxing corporations is gonna change that anytime soon. And it surely won't stop anyone from abusing the elderly.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Agreed----but Im willing to try, just to make sure;)
  • TheedgeTheedge Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 316
    I'm involved in local government. We have some folks who do really good work. We also have folks (just like in business) who are in it for whatever they can get. I've found both workers and politicians engaged in some pretty dubious practices and managed to get it stopped. $30,000 here, $70,000 there etc. There is just a sh*t load of what I call "wink wink, nod nod" that goes on in government. If every city, county, state etc would just have a come to Jesus meeting about the bs that goes on.....
  • webmostwebmost Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,131
  • Amos UmwhatAmos Umwhat Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,523
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
    beatnic:
    If you go back and adopt Clinton's tax structure, you also need to roll back government spending to the levels that he had. We have a spending problem.
    ...and a revenue problem, and an employment problem, and an aging population problem, and a greed problem. Focusing on only one of the causes of our faltering economy will not provide the expected results. Congress men and women must behave like rational adults instead of beligerent radio talk show shock jocks. They were elected to solve big problems, not make them worse.
  • Amos UmwhatAmos Umwhat Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,523
    JDH:
    Congress men and women must behave like rational adults instead of beligerent radio talk show shock jocks. They were elected to solve big problems, not make them worse.
    Another blow that strikes directly at the heart of the matter.
  • webmostwebmost Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,131
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
  • jadeltjadelt Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 766
    We just need more laws and regulations that will fix everything.
  • webmostwebmost Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,131
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