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NYPD - not their duty to protect and serve

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  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
  • jthanatosjthanatos Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,563
    Unfortunately, there is precedent to claim no duty to protect. Reading the stories make the officer on the train sound rather scummy, but then again heroes and outrage at the establishment sells papers, and I can't find anything from third party witnesses. Hopefully more will be made known.
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
    jthanatos:
    Unfortunately, there is precedent to claim no duty to protect. Reading the stories make the officer on the train sound rather scummy, but then again heroes and outrage at the establishment sells papers, and I can't find anything from third party witnesses. Hopefully more will be made known.
    Right. It's usually best to reserve judgement until the facts are in.
  • jgibvjgibv Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,996
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  • JGKAMINJGKAMIN Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 92
    I know Joe, he is a great guy and obviously a hero. Imagine taking your daily commute to work and not knowing the backstory of a deranged murderer on the loose and running into him in such a manner. Minding your own business and having this nut in front of you with a knife and telling you that you're going to die, all the while 2 armed cops stand 2 feet away.
  • jgibvjgibv Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,996
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  • JGKAMINJGKAMIN Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 92
    And let's not forget there was an APB out for this guy, every badge in NY and surrounding areas were looking for him for him as he was on a killing spree. That they had him right under their nose and stayed back behind the door watching him viciously attack J.Q. Public is just unbelievable.
  • jthanatosjthanatos Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,563
  • JGKAMINJGKAMIN Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 92
    So how else would you explain a couple of officers watching him being viciously attacked and not coming to his aid? Thety knew who and what he was, but they calimed to have believced he had a gun, which is no alibi for watching him wield a knife on an innocent bystander for so long and only came out once he had him subded. You see the wounds to this guy, do you see anything on the officer? How can you explain that if he was doing his job? Oh thats right, even the NYPD and their attorneys say that it wasn't their duty at the time. "city attorneys now are trying to have the case thrown out in court, saying Lozito had no reason to expect the officers would step in. "When you have a rapidly unfolding crime being committed, the police, their responsibility is effectively to act reasonably and nothing more," said Andrew Celli, Tort law expert." A) Litigation takes time, and obviously part of the complaint came from waiting to see how testimoney and things played out. B) I can't find any eyewitnesses praising the police for their efforts and giving a blow-by-blow account. C) His story is the same.
  • JDHJDH Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,107
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    Police in general are out of control. From the crap the police pulled during the OWS protests nothing surprises me.
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