They demanded a vote.

beatnic

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Who do we blame for the Boston bombs? The Bomber.Who do we blame for a school/campus/movie shooting? The Gun.Using Washington's logic, they need to make background checks for pressure cookers and nails.

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raisindot

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Who do we blame for the Boston bombs? The Bomber.Who do we blame for a school/campus/movie shooting? The Gun.Using Washington's logic, they need to make background checks for pressure cookers and nails.

By this logic, it should perfectly legal for people to buy, own and use (for protection or sport) anti-aircraft missiles, howitzers, bazookas, mortars, grenades, cluster bombs, machine guns, artillery weapons and mines. After all, any of these can be used for protection or sport, and none of these kill people--people kill people. Since all of these are technically "arms," they are thus protected by the second amendment. Therefore, anyone who believes that any of these weapons should be illegal to own has just landed on the slippery slope toward the erosion of your second amendment rights.

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beatnic

I'm thinking a surface to air anti-aircraft weapon is what will be needed to take down a government drone.

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beatnic:

I'm thinking a surface to air anti-aircraft weapon is what will be needed to take down a government drone.

Or if your neighbor let's tree branches grow over a fence in to your yard. A JDAM will teach him.

raisindot

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Wait a second.Who here thinks that background checks are not needed?Raisin, I don't think people should be allowed to own all the weapons you mentioned. My only point was Washington harps on guns too much. As we see, lots of things can, and are, used as weapons. The only connection between guns and pressure cookers is people. Let's focus on background checks and making sure the only people who are getting guns are, to the best of our knowledge, sane. We can't do much about people who steal them and use them.

Amos Umwhat

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Wait a second.Who here thinks that background checks are not needed?

dunno, I'm good with those

AVJim

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Wait a second.Who here thinks that background checks are not needed?Raisin, I don't think people should be allowed to own all the weapons you mentioned. My only point was Washington harps on guns too much. As we see, lots of things can, and are, used as weapons. The only connection between guns and pressure cookers is people. Let's focus on background checks and making sure the only people who are getting guns are, to the best of our knowledge, sane. We can't do much about people who steal them and use them.

Well put Randy.

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raisindot

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We have to keep in mind that at no point will everyone agree with ANY law.I mean, to be honest, our entire form of Government is based on majority rules. You don't agree with the laws? Tough. I don't mean you, I mean that in a general sense.Do I think Cuban cigars should be illegal? Heck no. Which brings up a point though. If I smoke a cuban, I have knowingly broke the law...because I don't give a **** what the government says about cuban cigars. If someone steals a weapon and kills someone, they have knowingly broke the law. Should the government then focus on more Cuban export/import laws? No, they already have laws saying that what I did was wrong. It's up to them to enforce.

beatnic

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-only-4-americans-think-gun-control-important-problem

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LOL

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beatnic:

I'm thinking a surface to air anti-aircraft weapon is what will be needed to take down a government drone.

Or if your neighbor let's tree branches grow over a fence in to your yard. A JDAM will teach him.

Me likey.

phobicsquirrel

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Oh, I should ad though that using that school shooting as a launching pad for these gun debates was really bad taste. I mean it's not like it was the only one and to use that to push an agenda IMO isn't worthy. People with more guns or carrying guns won't really stop these shootings. Hell it probably will make it worse. What will keep these from being the norm will be some major economic and social changes which I fear won't happen fast enough.