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onestrangeoneonestrangeone Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,423
I set up a 20 qt airtight tub as temporary storage with a Humi-care hx10 (yes it blew apart when i filled it, I dried it out enough to re stuff and duct taped it back together) anyway every time I sealed the lid the Rh will start to climb and after about 6 to 8 hrs. will hit 80, I unlatched one side of the top and stuck a match stick in and it drops back to about 72 - 73, I thought these were supposed to keep 70 Rh? By the way I filled it with distilled water. does anyone know why this would happen? I ended up tapeing off 3/4 of the screen to try to regulate it and it still varies from 68 to 72Rh Is there not any consistency to these unit's? is this something normal with the gel's?

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  • thedjfish@comcast.netthedjfish@comcast.net Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,533
    whats your ambient temp where the tub is located?
  • onestrangeoneonestrangeone Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,423
    72 to 75 sitting on a tile floor.
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    onestrangeone:
    I set up a 20 qt airtight tub as temporary storage with a Humi-care hx10 (yes it blew apart when i filled it, I dried it out enough to re stuff and duct taped it back together) anyway every time I sealed the lid the Rh will start to climb and after about 6 to 8 hrs. will hit 80, I unlatched one side of the top and stuck a match stick in and it drops back to about 72 - 73, I thought these were supposed to keep 70 Rh? By the way I filled it with distilled water. does anyone know why this would happen? I ended up tapeing off 3/4 of the screen to try to regulate it and it still varies from 68 to 72Rh Is there not any consistency to these unit's? is this something normal with the gel's?
    I assume you are using a digital hygrometer that has been calibrated. (salt test)? I also blew up a humicare just like yours. My theory is that these little gel balls aren't intended to swell up this big. They may be trying to purge excess moisture and therefore the higher than average RH. Do you have cigars in there now? If yes, They might be able to regulate themselves for a while without any help from humidifier. If that doesn't work. Try measuring the RH in the room and if it is lower than your target RH you could leave the lid open for a while and let the RH inside the container drop down more, close the lid and keep the humicare out of there for a while. If the RH in the room is higher than your target RH. You might try some uncooked rice inside the container to absorb excess moisture. Either way keep the humicare out of there for now. And there's always silica Kitty Litter crystals if you can get to a petsmart or walmart. Ask me about brand selection if you want to try kitty litter.
  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    In Austin? And we have not met?
  • blurrblurr Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 962
    For tupperdors or a cooler humidor, you really need a good 2 way humidification media such as silica beadslitter pearls or boveda. I'm guessing the gels are good at giving off humidity but very poor at absorbing it, I believe I've heard this stated somewhere. Like bob said your room humidity is also possibly above 70rh so its struggling to lower the humidity. Just take it out for a few days and see if just the cigars being in there alone settles at 65 to 68rh. In that time maybe the gel will dry out some, or you will have some silica from wallyworld etc.
  • onestrangeoneonestrangeone Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,423
    I do have several digitals calibrated with one of the calibration "Kits" I was getting mixed results from the salt test I also check them against each other. I am interested in more info on the silica for my smaller Humi's 100 & 150 I have gone electric with the big boys "La Veil" The tubs are temporary my collection seems to grow faster than I can make new humidors.
  • onestrangeoneonestrangeone Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,423
    Maybe we will run across each other sometime, I do make it to Georgetown a couple of time a month. I am staying in north central Austin
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
  • blurrblurr Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 962
    Bob speaks the truth. Litter will get you set within a weak, and once you learn how it handles your humi setup, its no mess consistent all month.
  • onestrangeoneonestrangeone Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,423
    What kind of containers are you using? a bowl, sock, pantyhose? it seems that this would take up a lot of space. I assume that the more surface area that is exposed the better it is. If I took the rack that holds the humidifier and lined lined it with window screen would that work?
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    Boveda for me no problems here at all!!
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    Lee.mcglynn:
    Boveda for me no problems here at all!!
    Bovedas! Yeah Baby! I love Bovedas. I even used bovedas to train the Kitty litter to keep 65% RH in my cooler. But now all my bovedas are laid off from work. They are all in a ziploc bag waiting to be called back into service while the kitty litter does thier old job for less money.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    Bob Luken:
    Lee.mcglynn:
    Boveda for me no problems here at all!!
    Bovedas! Yeah Baby! I love Bovedas. I even used bovedas to train the Kitty litter to keep 65% RH in my cooler. But now all my bovedas are laid off from work. They are all in a ziploc bag waiting to be called back into service while the kitty litter does thier old job for less money.
    recently I've been using a great method of 62&65 bovedas along with gel. So far the rh is perfect at 65&67 and they have lasted over a year so cost is very low. I'm happy and don't think I really need to change it
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
  • RhamlinRhamlin Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,530
    I used those for the last couple years. I don't recommend them for coolers or Tupperware since all they do is release the humidity and you can get drastic spikes. Also I think they put too many of the balls in them sometimes. They were supposed to have this problem fixed but it seems to have started up again. What I did was I let them swell up then put the balls back in till it was full which left me enough to fill another empty one, so I ended up with 2.
  • CigaryCigary Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 623
    Yes indeed...KL works best for me and it's almost a no brainer to set up. If you can put KL into a shallow container and spritz the top of the litter a few times...wait a few hours and check the RH to see where it is then you can be a fan as well. Usually when you put KL into a container and leave it for about 6 hours it will be around 58 to 62 RH. A few sprays and check again in a few hours should have you around 64 to 66%. I have a bunch of the rectangular hygros that I took the foam out and replaced with KL and they work perfect as most of the KL gets sprayed and that's what you want...as much surface area exposed to capture the spray.
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