Health Advise for a New Cigar Smoker

Fractal

Renaissance_Man

First... That buzzing, tingling sensation might have been just the "pepper or spice" you feel of the cigar... And second - there ARE always small risks... You might be the lucky in a million guy to get throat cancer or mouth cancer very easy. In any case the risks ARE small, but honestly - I have accepted them. I have never really met a cigar smoker (even heavy ones) that has serious problems... You can convince yourself that there are no risks, but that is simply not true. A fact is though that there is risk with EVERYTHING you really do and/or put in your mouth. There was also an article about how milk produces something in the body that fuels cancer cells... So all those years spent to promote milk we just f*cked ourselves? Got milk? The risks are minimal and are comparable to a lot of other "everyday" risks u r exposed to. You are better off smoking cigars like you do than being in a highly polluted city for example ... I hope this helps. Cheers!!

Krieg

you might also want to do a search for this topic, it's been talked about alot on here.

undulac

I don't want to be 95 dying of nothing one day.

kuzi16

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Theedge

I've decided to limit it to 2-3 per week - I do notice I certainly enjoy them more, something to look forward to.  Also, at that rate they might as well be really good cigars.  The end result will be the same, no appointment will be needed...

kuzi16

Theedge:

I've decided to limit it to 2-3 per week - I do notice I certainly enjoy them more,

this is also a good way to not burn out your palate. I very rarely will smoke more than one in a day. most of the time i wont smoke more than one in a two day period. i just find that i taste them better.

clearlysuspect

Regarding health issues, I decided to do some research into the National Cancer Institutes "Cigars: Health Effects and Trends." They almost had me convinced to stop smoking cigars as I read the first 8-10 pages. They threw out all these statistics and medical issues that cigars cause and frankly, it was just about enough to deter me. But, the avid reader that I am, I decided to finish reading the text. About three quarters through this thing, they finally reveal the scope of their study which was as follows: 150 middle age to elderly men who smoked no more than 5 CIGARS A DAY!. Later, they would equate 5 cigars to one pack of cigarettes. I obviously concluded that this study had no relevance whatsoever in regards to my monthly cigar intake. Some of these fellas they were studying were consuming 20-30 times the amount of cigars I enjoy in a month. But based on that info, I decided to have no more than 2-3 in a week. Originally, I tried cigars as an alternate to cigarettes. Since then, I've fallen in love with my new hobby, the culture surrounding it, and my ever-expanding collection of fine smokes. So, if 8-12 cigars equals about 2 packs of cigarettes in a month, then I feel a lot better about that than the 1 1/2 packs of cigarettes I'd smoke in a day! In summary, are there health risks? Yes! Are they as serious as the National Cancer Institute would like you to believe? Not even close!

Renaissance_Man

clearlysuspect:

Regarding health issues, I decided to do some research into the National Cancer Institutes "Cigars: Health Effects and Trends." They almost had me convinced to stop smoking cigars as I read the first 8-10 pages. They threw out all these statistics and medical issues that cigars cause and frankly, it was just about enough to deter me. But, the avid reader that I am, I decided to finish reading the text. About three quarters through this thing, they finally reveal the scope of their study which was as follows: 150 middle age to elderly men who smoked no more than 5 CIGARS A DAY!. Later, they would equate 5 cigars to one pack of cigarettes. I obviously concluded that this study had no relevance whatsoever in regards to my monthly cigar intake. Some of these fellas they were studying were consuming 20-30 times the amount of cigars I enjoy in a month. But based on that info, I decided to have no more than 2-3 in a week. Originally, I tried cigars as an alternate to cigarettes. Since then, I've fallen in love with my new hobby, the culture surrounding it, and my ever-expanding collection of fine smokes. So, if 8-12 cigars equals about 2 packs of cigarettes in a month, then I feel a lot better about that than the 1 1/2 packs of cigarettes I'd smoke in a day! In summary, are there health risks? Yes! Are they as serious as the National Cancer Institute would like you to believe? Not even close!

Yeah... I have read several studies from them. They are all flawed. But in general - it is hard to have any objective study on this matter. 2-3 a week is a very good solution. Its all about controlling yourself and not shocking ur body. If you are going to increase that amount also do it gradually... You can "train" your body to be able to smoke 20 cigars a day and still live 100 years... It IS possible. Quite hard but very possible... Go to Tibet

Renaissance_Man

Renaissance_Man:

Go to Tibet

or look at Churchill! He smoked like a chimney and died at 90 even though he was constantly under stress and pressure. Blah - everything can be enjoyed if you know how to "control" your body and do not go against it in unreasonable degrees...

gmill880

I'll weigh in on this as someone who had a recent health scare. May 30th I had a heart attack. I heard all the don't smoke anymore cigars from all the heart and heart related doctors. I read the same study about the men and the tests and the 5 a day cigars. The one I read completely also said at the end the test results were over like a 25 year period!of middle aged and older guys. Not a tremendous differece in health issues but maybe more suceptible to certain cancers. My family physician ...who I trust or he wouldn't be my family physician...when I asked him he said qoute " well anyone who tells you there is definite irrefutable proof that cigars will harm you is just straight up not telling you the truth , do they have a effect on you , probably , just like everything else you eat drink consume smoke or whatever. There is no absolute proof it will shorten your life just like theres no absolute proof it will extend it either " . I've read a ton since may 30 and have decided to take my chances ...I work in a college town and think I'm more likely to be run over and killed by someones spastic 19 year old kid thats enjoying his car, friends and first time outta sight of momma and daddy. They drive like hell on the roads and sidewalks ...I'm just sayin ...

ironhorse

I can't imagine smoking 25-50 dollars of cigars a day. That's 200-350 dollars a week or 10,000 to 18,000 dollars a year. Were these guys they tested CEO's or something? Or did the study pay for the cigars? And if so, where do I sign up?

andrewh

Medical studies are the reason why I always read small print!

clearlysuspect

ironhorse:

I can't imagine smoking 25-50 dollars of cigars a day. That's 200-350 dollars a week or 10,000 to 18,000 dollars a year. Were these guys they tested CEO's or something? Or did the study pay for the cigars? And if so, where do I sign up?

Maybe they were smoking Chocolate Phillies!

jlmarta

Kamelyon

clearlysuspect:

Later, they would equate 5 cigars to one pack of cigarettes. I obviously concluded that this study had no relevance whatsoever in regards to my monthly cigar intake. Not even close!

I have a couple of questions about the research. 1) What kind of quality were the cigars? Were they Chocolate Phillies? or were they Ashtons, or some other quality made cigar? There is a big difference in the tobbacco used for each. Tobbacco used in the "7-11" crap, as I call it, is short filler that's processed and rolled by machines. 2) Did the test subjects inhale said cigars? I imagine that inhaling would asorb quite a bit more nicotine than retrohaling. I think there are alot more variables that are not considered between smoking cigarettes and enjoying a well crafted cigar.

bibby

clearlysuspect

Kamelyon:

clearlysuspect:

Later, they would equate 5 cigars to one pack of cigarettes. I obviously concluded that this study had no relevance whatsoever in regards to my monthly cigar intake. Not even close!

I have a couple of questions about the research. 1) What kind of quality were the cigars? Were they Chocolate Phillies? or were they Ashtons, or some other quality made cigar? There is a big difference in the tobbacco used for each. Tobbacco used in the "7-11" crap, as I call it, is short filler that's processed and rolled by machines. 2) Did the test subjects inhale said cigars? I imagine that inhaling would asorb quite a bit more nicotine than retrohaling. I think there are alot more variables that are not considered between smoking cigarettes and enjoying a well crafted cigar.

They never really touched on inhaling vs not inhaling in depth and did not provide it as part of their experimental scope. They did not that even with not inhaling that carcinogens were transferred to the lips and tongue, transferred to the saliva and delivered to the mouth, throat, and asophygus (forgive me if I'm killing any of these words grammatically). And no, they did not specify which cigars they were smoking.

Fractal

Goldy

T. Gervais

I believe that we as a society are babied and protected far too much. What does the government care if I die of cancer? There are too many dang people on this planet anyway. I am not stupid and I know that there are certain risks from smoking tobacco products, just as there are risks when doing just about everything else we do, but I don't really care. And if I don't care, then neither should the national institute for blahblahblah.

kuzi16

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j0z3r

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