Enumerated Powers Act of 2013

phobicsquirrel

perkinke

Not really concerned, this is pandering of the worst sort. They sign on because it looks good to their constituents knowing they don't have the votes to make it law, then they go back to their caves and say "Hey, I tried, it was those OTHER people's fault." Making a law restricting their ability to make law is simply circular stupidity. This is the laughable portion of the Tea Party movement, the folks who are supposedly interested in making government more efficient and cheaper. Then they pull these stunts solely to gum up the works.

kuzi16

phobicsquirrel:

Some 36 senators signed onto this legislation, could cause some problems down the road...

this is a non story. 36 senators? not even close to passing.

webmost

raisindot

webmost

Should government be held accountable to it's charter or not?

Amos Umwhat

raisindot:

...contrary to popular belief among certain conservatives, liberals do not belief in unlimited government any more than conservatives believe in no government at all. For example, plenty of liberals were against Bush's draconian freedom-limited, library monitoring surveillance policies and are outraged the continued use of these methods by the Obama administration, while plenty of conservatives support these policies. Plenty of liberals are against the government's corporate welfare for oil companies, pharmaceuticals, tobacco companies and big agriculture. Plenty of liberals are against the drone program and were against the Iraq War. There are even liberals who are against Obamacare, although their reasons may be different than those of conservatives. Plenty of liberals are against efforts by states to limit voting and limit access to abortion, while plenty of conservatives are in favor of these policies. Plenty of liberals are against out of control military spending for pork-barrel programs that even the military doesn't want but are forced to fund because of pressure from Congressmen on both sides of the aisle. So putting labels on groups is neither accurate nor particularly productive.

I think that here you have touched on what may be the greatest problem facing our country today. Neither side will admit their own flaws, or when the other side has an idea that works. Rush Limbaugh went on and on the other day about how Libril's are the enemy of freedom, and con-serve-atives support freedom in every way. I wish I were exagerating, but so it was. I couldn't help but think about a town near here that had a recent vote that finally allowed sales of alcohol. I would bet any amount that if you polled the voters, those who voted "NO" to alcohol would identify themselves as conservative. Their idea is, you're free to be like them. Just like them.

raisindot

jthanatos

webmost

Raisin, you keep ducking and dodging and obfuscating. I wish I had time to battle your army of straw men. I do not. The starting point of this thread was an article which claimed that tea party dunderheads were attempting to roll back the gains of labor over a century. That's bull. The proposal in question attempts to make legislators at least give lip service to their charter. A charter which limits their powers.

raisindot