HCM Beads

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Bob Luken

roaddevilray

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Bob Luken

roaddevilray

Bob Luken

I've read more about it since you posted your question but I just haven't heard anything. Looks like it might be good. All I've used is gels, bovedas and silica kitty litter. And if I was making recommendations for a new guy I'd say go with boveda while you read up on kitty litter.

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Bob Luken

The Xikar "Crystals" are a good product as far as gel products go. I have a Xikar puck and a stick that have both given great service for a long time now. I bought some of the Xikar solution and used only that solution with them and they are great at helping keep 70% RH.

Gray4lines

smoke em if you got em

Bob Luken

smoke em if you got em

Gray4lines

Bob, at first glance I had the same thought. Ray, hope you stick around and enjoy the hobby too. Let us know how your xi gel works. Also, you should tell us what kind of cigars you like.

thedjfish@comcast.net

seemed like a plain question to me,

Lee.mcglynn

For all that jumped... Most say have you tried this? It's amazing and I'll never try anything else again! Yeah that's a sell...but people that have no idea well don't jump at them because you were once there yourself!! Just take a newb as it is and go with it. The forums have become nasty recently and mostly from newer members. Just think this is not any of our forums and yes all the questions have been answered at some point. I think we all need to chill and relax! Reflect back on why the forums here are so great. Think about if we all jumped down your throat at the first post...would you still be here?!?!

Bob Luken

roaddevilray

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Ok guys were good here. Your good Bob. It happens, more of us have done it than we'd like to admit.

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thedjfish@comcast.net

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Gray4lines

onestrangeone

Lee.mcglynn:

For all that jumped... Most say have you tried this? It's amazing and I'll never try anything else again! Yeah that's a sell...but people that have no idea well don't jump at them because you were once there yourself!! Just take a newb as it is and go with it. The forums have become nasty recently and mostly from newer members. Just think this is not any of our forums and yes all the questions have been answered at some point. I think we all need to chill and relax! Reflect back on why the forums here are so great. Think about if we all jumped down your throat at the first post...would you still be here?!?!

Thank you Lee for you words and the respect and tolerance you have shown too those of us who may started off on the wrong foot. Welcome to the forum Ramon this is a great place to hang out!

ckrddsmke

Humidifier solutions are 50/50 Propylene Glycol and distilled water (depending on the RH you want) and you can order a gallon of pure PG for around $17 and a gallon of distilled water for $1, as compared to 8 oz of whatever kind of Stogie Juice is being marketed. The Humi Crystals and variants are super absorbent polymers and you can buy enough to last you a few years for $3-4 at a lot of craft shops and probably find them on line. Don't buy the already hydrated ones as there is no way to tell if they were hydrated with distilled water. You just place 1/4 teaspoon of the beads in about 1 1/2 cups of water and 8 hours later you have enough beads to fill 4 rectangular humidifiers if you remove the floral foam. The floral foam can be purchased at the same craft stores be sure to buy the wet version. Be it a $30 humidor package or a Daniel Marshall they all come with the same foam. I've never used Kitty litter, or HCM beads, however, as previously posted it is an another example of repackaging a product for a much higher mark up.