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Nitrogen/Vacuum Packing

perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
A website that I found in Europe offers vacuum packing or nitrogen packing for its orders, I was curious if anyone has used these methods or if y'all have any idea of the benefits and drawbacks?

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  • allsmokedupallsmokedup Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 738
    Vacuum obviates air and nitrogen displaces it. Air stores humidityallows its transmission... I guess science isn't so hot these days.
  • perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
    allsmokedup:
    Vacuum obviates air and nitrogen displaces it. Air stores humidityallows its transmission... I guess science isn't so hot these days.
    Yeah, I know what both of them do, the question was whether it be beneficial to have the exact level of humidity in the cigar preserved at the time of it's packaging via the vacuum packaging (similar to the way meat is transported long distances)? Would the nitrogen replacement of the oxygen, thus disrupting the maturation cycle for a few days and potentially eliminating the environmental conditions necessary for parasitic or fungal growth be a beneficial action or would it affect their flavors, or are these just gimmicks.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    Vacume I can see nitrogen will actually dry the sticks out!
  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    allsmokedup:
    Vacuum obviates air and nitrogen displaces it. Air stores humidityallows its transmission... I guess science isn't so hot these days.
    You're just happy you got to type obviate. The United States ranks from 20 to 27th on a mean performance on science scale. So no......we don't science, bro.
  • perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
    Rain:
    allsmokedup:
    Vacuum obviates air and nitrogen displaces it. Air stores humidityallows its transmission... I guess science isn't so hot these days.
    You're just happy you got to type obviate. The United States ranks from 20 to 27th on a Mean Performance scale. So no......we don't science, bro.
    Some of us do, my first two years of college I worked as a chemist trainee for a Dow subsidiary who rented space on campus as well as taught freshman chemistry. i also did a short stint at the Umatilla Chemical Warfare Depot when I was an ROTC cadet. But, none of that included experimenting with packing methods for cigars. :)
  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    perkinke:
    I worked as a chemist trainee for a Dow subsidiary who rented space on campus as well as taught freshman chemistry. i also did a short stint at the Umatilla Chemical Warfare Depot when I was an ROTC cadet.
    Mind.....blown.
  • Gray4linesGray4lines Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,439
  • perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
  • catfishbluezzcatfishbluezz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,993
    Well...that place normally takes about 5 days to get to you. So really, it's not a big deal either way unless it gets held up. I'd say their choice of getting the boveda pack is much safer.
  • macs-smokesmacs-smokes Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 585
    The only benefit I can think of for nitrogen... is kill beetles. Lack of oxygen... other than that... meh
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    catfishbluezz:
    Well...that place normally takes about 5 days to get to you. So really, it's not a big deal either way unless it gets held up. I'd say their choice of getting the boveda pack is much safer.
    +1 and R's cs is great!
  • perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
    Thanks guys, my recent bout with mold made me take a second look at these two things. and "R" huh? Mine was a "P"... :)
  • FireRobFireRob Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,884
    perkinke:
    but wonder about the effect of nitro penetrating the cigars and if they would need to be outgassed or purged somehow. Given the relatively small volume of cigar boxes, probably not a big deal with that little gas, but still, i'm curious.
    Not sure I follow you, Nitrogen is an inert gas, Time to go back to Freshman ROTC chemistry class. Can’t imagine why you would need to do any of this. Your cigars already contain plenty of Nitrogen since the atmosphere is like 76 to 80% Nitrogen anyways and it is the most abundant gas on Earth.
  • perkinkeperkinke Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,562
    FireRob:
    perkinke:
    but wonder about the effect of nitro penetrating the cigars and if they would need to be outgassed or purged somehow. Given the relatively small volume of cigar boxes, probably not a big deal with that little gas, but still, i'm curious.
    Not sure I follow you, Nitrogen is an inert gas, Time to go back to Freshman ROTC chemistry class. Can’t imagine why you would need to do any of this. Your cigars already contain plenty of Nitrogen since the atmosphere is like 76 to 80% Nitrogen anyways and it is the most abundant gas on Earth.
    Exactly, inert, does not react, does not burn. So when you replace a vessels ENTIRE air content with an inert gas, and you have to do that with a fair bit of pressure, it ceases to contain that lovely little combustible element called oxygen. So, cigars being porous and under an unknown amount of pressure would absorb and retain the nitrogen and i don't know how long that would take to replace the atmospheric content in a cigar nor how long it would take to expel that replaced air and take back in our friend oxygen so that it lights and burns properly. All sorts of things CAN screw up a stick's burn, part of the question with this process was whether this is one of those things that MAY do that.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    macs-smokes:
    The only benefit I can think of for nitrogen... is kill beetles. Lack of oxygen... other than that... meh
    even the Cubans are getting on board with freezing cigars now. this is becoming less and less of an issue as the years pass by.
  • 0patience0patience Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,767
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