Would Hillary have been better than Barry O?

Bob Luken

Rain

I doubt anyone for a long time will be a good President. There is just too much distance from the American people to the President.

Bob Luken

Oh, yeah, I kind of agree but, I didn't mean to ask whether she would have been a good president. But, just for the sake of speculation, would she have been better, or worse, than President Obama.

Bob Luken

Bob Luken:

Double post double post.

jlmarta

They're both losers in my book. My dad had a saying for it. He'd say "I'll trade both of them off for a yellow dog and then shoot the damned dog".

Bob Luken

jlmarta:

They're both losers in my book. My dad had a saying for it. He'd say "I'll trade both of them off for a yellow dog and then shoot the damned dog".

LOL But, that's not an actual answer to the question (and I'll ask it again until I get busy and have to go do real-world things). I'll put it another way. If you had to go back to 2008 in a time machine and your only two options were to leave history as it is, or put Hillary in the White House instead of Obama, which would you choose?

SleevePlz

I don't think it would be much different. The political parties seem to make all the decisions now (considering every vote is down party lines). So I imagine every Democratic President will be pretty similar, as will every Republican. I wonder where the next war will be when the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years....

wwhwang

Bob Luken

SleevePlz:

I don't think it would be much different. The political parties seem to make all the decisions now (considering every vote is down party lines). So I imagine every Democratic President will be pretty similar, as will every Republican. I wonder where the next war will be when the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years....

"When the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years...."? Did you just say Hillary can't win? Or was it just so you can make that crack about the warmongers?

The3Stogies

Instead of racism every one that disagreed with her would be part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy", or anti-feminist.

Bob Luken

webmost

Prolly sell more pardons than Bill.

SleevePlz

Bob Luken:

SleevePlz:

I don't think it would be much different. The political parties seem to make all the decisions now (considering every vote is down party lines). So I imagine every Democratic President will be pretty similar, as will every Republican. I wonder where the next war will be when the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years....

"When the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years...."? Did you just say Hillary can't win? Or was it just so you can make that crack about the warmongers?

Well, I believe things are cyclical. I also believe the GOP are warmongers, as evidenced by their warmongering. I find it amazing that the same people that freak out over the five deaths linked to the deserter aren't freaked out over the thousands of deaths in Iraq when that war was unwarranted (unless you believe invading a sovereign nation over WMDs/Saddam is a bad person/they bombed WTC/it definitely isn't about oil/insert random reason #5 here). Ever wonder how many American soldiers would be alive today if Gore was President back then? I do and it makes me really sad.

Beaker38

I don't like bashing presidents because everyone needs someone to blame (except W Bush he was just bad all around). well sometimes its not the president failing us its the government as a whole. the only thing i see congress doing votes on is there pay check. I don't know why some people vote these people in to there positions when all they care about is $$$. i know Obama came from a middle class family and i feel he represents us to the best of his ability. being president is probably the hardest job in the whole world and to say if Hillary would be better is like saying what would have happened if Lincoln was not assassinated or the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of the Austro-Hungarian empire didn't happen and WW1 didn't happen. I don't like having political debates because people never budge on anything they believe. My family was very into politics with one of my relatives running for mayor in Albany, NY. There is little Obama can get accomplished due to congress shooting down all of his bills but at least he is doing something. Obama is probably the most down to earth president we have had in a while, who also didn't come form money. I am a Independent, the only time i can see voting for the GOP party is if they have someone that is not way far right or if Andrew Cuomo or as people in NY call him King Cuomo was running (I hate that guy).

jd50ae

Elmer Fudd would have made a better president.

The3Stogies

webmost

The3Stogies

jd50ae

Bob Luken

SleevePlz

phobicsquirrel

SleevePlz:

Bob Luken:

SleevePlz:

I don't think it would be much different. The political parties seem to make all the decisions now (considering every vote is down party lines). So I imagine every Democratic President will be pretty similar, as will every Republican. I wonder where the next war will be when the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years....

"When the GOP retake the Oval Office in a couple years...."? Did you just say Hillary can't win? Or was it just so you can make that crack about the warmongers?

Well, I believe things are cyclical. I also believe the GOP are warmongers, as evidenced by their warmongering. I find it amazing that the same people that freak out over the five deaths linked to the deserter aren't freaked out over the thousands of deaths in Iraq when that war was unwarranted (unless you believe invading a sovereign nation over WMDs/Saddam is a bad person/they bombed WTC/it definitely isn't about oil/insert random reason #5 here). Ever wonder how many American soldiers would be alive today if Gore was President back then? I do and it makes me really sad.

I know right. I think she would have been worse, though there would have been a more civil discourse in the country. In truth though a lot of things Obama wanted to do when he came in office were popular however the president is only as good as conress is and the pressure from the people. Also the govt isn't really checked by the voters, they do their corporate masters will. Elections are mostly to appease us. Sure their are some political office holders that do good things but not enough of them. I'm thinking a tipping point will come though not sure which way it will tip.

jgibv

They are all bought and paid for way before their name is printed on the ballot....doesn't make a difference whose name is on there....

The Kid

Bob Luken:

Oh, yeah, I kind of agree but, I didn't mean to ask whether she would have been a good president. But, just for the sake of speculation, would she have been better, or worse, than President Obama.

Better or worse for who?????? People with your mindset??? Curious, since this question is based on her statement regarding the Bergdahl trade, Why are you opposed to it? (the trade)

Bob Luken

The3Stogies

jlmarta

jd50ae

jd50ae

jd50ae

jd50ae