Ebola Virus

MorganGeo

Just curious as to the BOTLs' opinions on the forum about the two Americans being brought back to the USA with the virus?

0patience

Rain

"Two Americans stricken by Ebola in West Africa are coming home for treatment in Atlanta, and U.S. government officials are urging the public to remain confident in the health-care system’s ability to keep the deadly disease isolated. The State Department on Friday confirmed the medical evacuations without identifying the patients. A charity organization, Samaritan’s Purse, said two Americans in serious condition with the disease will be evacuated: Kent Brantly, a Fort Worth doctor who had been treating Ebola victims in Liberia, and Nancy Writebol, a missionary from Charlotte. "Umm....no.God bless them, but treat them over there. This despite the fact that a person infected with Ebola isn’t contagious until becoming sick. The virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids. It isn’t an airborne contagion. Yeah, I'm a bad person.

jsnake

I do not understand this move. Just does not make any sense to take such risk not only to their health but to possibly exposing more people during their travels and arrival.

webmost

The doctor volunteered to risk his life for what he conceived to be a noble cause. He lost that gamble. Like Damien at Molokai. Now he gambles the lives of those who did not volunteer.

Ken Light

Can we put their flight path over Ukraine? Too soon?

Rain

Ken Light:

Can we put their flight path over Ukraine? Too soon?

Nice!

MorganGeo

It just doesn't make any sense to me. I can't wrap my mind around this.

Puff_Dougie

webmost:

The doctor volunteered to risk his life for what he conceived to be a noble cause. He lost that gamble. Like Damien at Molokai. Now he gambles the lives of those who did not volunteer.

This is on point. It makes absolutely no sense to bring these folks back here and take the risk of introducing this incurable and deadly disease to a new country and a new population. This is not an issue of compassion. It's an issue of common sense.

jd50ae

Isn't this the basis for some real horror movie come to reality.

Gray4lines

perkinke

Puff_Dougie:

webmost:

The doctor volunteered to risk his life for what he conceived to be a noble cause. He lost that gamble. Like Damien at Molokai. Now he gambles the lives of those who did not volunteer.

This is on point. It makes absolutely no sense to bring these folks back here and take the risk of introducing this incurable and deadly disease to a new country and a new population. This is not an issue of compassion. It's an issue of common sense.

I think it is curable. A close friend works for a biopharma company that has a pretty profitable contract with the DoD and developed either a vaccine or a cure, I can't remember which but generally if you can make one you can make the other. but to get it into the public they have to get their *** together and get human trials authorized. I'm not sure if it's good or bad when the DoD says "if it's good enough for monkeys it's good enough for soldiers."

Jetmech_63

perkinke:

I'm not sure if it's good or bad when the DoD says "if it's good enough for monkeys it's good enough for soldiers."

eh. That's how randy and I got pumped full of anthrax vaccine before it was deemed unsafe.

Martel

Ken Light

Ken Light

perkinke:

Puff_Dougie:

webmost:

The doctor volunteered to risk his life for what he conceived to be a noble cause. He lost that gamble. Like Damien at Molokai. Now he gambles the lives of those who did not volunteer.

This is on point. It makes absolutely no sense to bring these folks back here and take the risk of introducing this incurable and deadly disease to a new country and a new population. This is not an issue of compassion. It's an issue of common sense.

I think it is curable. A close friend works for a biopharma company that has a pretty profitable contract with the DoD and developed either a vaccine or a cure, I can't remember which but generally if you can make one you can make the other. but to get it into the public they have to get their *** together and get human trials authorized. I'm not sure if it's good or bad when the DoD says "if it's good enough for monkeys it's good enough for soldiers."

Well here we have our reasoning. Scare people into buying this currently unmarketable vaccine. That's why he's coming back, case closed. I'm not saying there's a real threat here, see above I think there probably isn't, but there is a real chance to make some $$.

Rain

Jetmech_63:

perkinke:

I'm not sure if it's good or bad when the DoD says "if it's good enough for monkeys it's good enough for soldiers."

eh. That's how randy and I got pumped full of anthrax vaccine before it was deemed unsafe.

Oh yeah.....that happened

Martel

This is not a zombie movie. This is a fairly containable disease under proper conditions. Is there a threat? Sure, there's risk in smoking cigars that we all accept. I don't believe there's a hidden agenda here, beyond giving Kent the best treatment possible and maybe using this experience to find a cure and prepare doctors and facilities for a real outbreak.

0patience

Rain

Seriously...this is a "play with fire, get burned" situation. You want to treat a deadly virus, go ahead and God bless. But how surprised can anyone really be when you become infected with said virus? Fine, you want to do the "right" thing, then take him to an OCONUS medical facility and treat him. It's unnecessary. "Well we have the facilities to treat him safely" Maybe. Google Janet Parker. Besides, if it's so treatable and hard to spread, how the eff did he get it in the first place?

Martel

Rain

Martel:

He contracted it because they were working with makeshift protocols. They wore head-to-toe Tyvek suits, but they weren't self-contained atmosphere suits. Their facilities didn't include negative air pressure or redundancies. Their decon procedures were pretty much getting hosed down with a bleach solution.

So someone knew that their protocols were "makeshift"? That's reassuring. I bet he knew the dangers before he got infected. Apparently, in his mind the reward was greater than the risk. Until he got sick, anyways.

Rain

webmost:

The doctor volunteered to risk his life for what he conceived to be a noble cause. He lost that gamble. Like Damien at Molokai. Now he gambles the lives of those who did not volunteer.

I don't know how I missed this, but it makes my posts here irrelevant. +1

0patience

Martel

Rain

Martel:

The precautions are not first-world quality, but they are enough.

Obviously not.

Martel:

He was infected because someone else didn't follow protocol in a third world country in a third world facility.

Where he CHOSE to work.Still love ya Eric. I've also said my peace on this...NCR makes me a grouch

Martel

Amos Umwhat

raisindot

webmost

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/08/04/3365612/drug-given-to-american-ebola-victims.html?sp=/99/322/&ihp=1

deejmemixx

Should have sent him to the dirty side of korea