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AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
Hey guys. So the big cello on-or-off debate can be argued both ways since cellophane is supposedly porous, but glass tubos aren't, and some of them come with a supposed "air-tight" seal with wax or cork or both. So, what should one do regarding glass tubos in the short term and long term storage?

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  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    IMO, Tubo = sexy mold magnet.Sure they look awesome but...I've had bad experiences. Normally I'll place the gar in the humi and the tubo next to it, that way I still have it if I want it. I've head that people who keep tubos in the humi recommend taking the cap off.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    Sometimes I do keep stuff in the tubes but I also run a low temp and lower rh! But yeah that cedar sleeve loves mold so if you do keep them in the tube keep a eye out for mold
  • SleevePlzSleevePlz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,408
    As I've said before, I've never had a problem with a tubo or coffin after I've received it. Specifically to your question, I've also wondered about the sealed glass tubes. It seems like there would be absolutely no air exchange in them. It must be fine otherwise they wouldn't do it. Maybe I'll smoke a glass tubed cigar soon and see how it performs.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    SleevePlz:
    As I've said before, I've never had a problem with a tubo or coffin after I've received it. Specifically to your question, I've also wondered about the sealed glass tubes. It seems like there would be absolutely no air exchange in them. It must be fine otherwise they wouldn't do it. Maybe I'll smoke a glass tubed cigar soon and see how it performs.
    imo it's the cedar sleeve that causes mold...the glass doesn't have that so it should be good. Sometimes I'll just take out the cedar and not worry
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    Its just hard to imagine that a manufacturer, like Gurkha the Royal Reserve, would go through all the trouble of making a glass tubo with an elaborate wax seal (think Maker's Mark), only to have the buyer break the seal and take the cigars out to store in the humi. Kind of a turn off for me. Pre-Smoke presentation is a big part of my smoking enjoyement. So, do they know something that we dont? Do they have secret mold and RH scientists developing special tubes? And for those that mentioned the cedar sleeve being a mold magnet, please note that that only applies to metal tubos. Glass tubos do not have the cedar sheet inside.
  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    The average person does not even have a humi, so the glass tubo would sit on their office desk for six months before they smoked it.
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    Rain:
    The average person does not even have a humi, so the glass tubo would sit on their office desk for six months before they smoked it.
    Possibly, but would your "average person without a humi" buy a $700 box of Royal Reserves? I dont think that cigar was aimed at an average joe. They must have imagined that the buyer would be some sort of connoisseur or hobbyist that would have a humi.
  • RainRain Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 8,761
    Since most aficionados would not pay $70 for a box of Gurkhas....yes? ;) Where is the picture of that guy smoking with the cedar sleeve on...he would totally buy them. Or all the "I paid XXX for these ISOMs, are they real?" Price in no way is an indication of quality. I doubt most companies care what you do/don't have, as long as you buy their cigars.Anywho, to try and get myself back on topic...that's tough. Not being sure if they breath, I'd take them out. But you're right, part of the appeal is how they look IN the tubo.
  • wwhwangwwhwang Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,863
    Rain:
    Where is the picture of that guy smoking with the cedar sleeve on...
    Must have had a lot of woody flavor notes lol. I've had nothing but good luck with tubos to be honest. No issues at all. However, the majority of people agree that the rh tends to run very high in most tubos, so yeah, they can be mold magnets.
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    Hmm...I guess I'll go get my wine opener.
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    Rain:
    Price in no way is an indication of quality.
    Amen brother. I smoked a maduro yard gar last night that had seven months rest on it. Not the best cigar I've had but it may have been one of the best as far as value if you factor in what I will call the "satisfaction to price ratio". I was VERY happy with the satisfaction to price ratio.
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    And what cigar was it? care to share the make and model? Also, how was the cigar stored during those 7 months? Cello, RH, Temp?
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    AshMe:
    And what cigar was it? care to share the make and model? Also, how was the cigar stored during those 7 months? Cello, RH, Temp?
    PM to yo ash.
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  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,608
    Bought a box of Limitada 10th's when they came out, still sealed in their test tubes for now. They do take up lot's of space too and if they are sealed why did I put them in my humi? But they are so pretty, like little wine bottles resting in the cradle/trays they come in. Anyway will probably open some up soon so they can breathe. Think they will age better naked.
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    The3Stogies:
    Bought a box of Limitada 10th's when they came out, still sealed in their test tubes for now. They do take up lot's of space too and if they are sealed why did I put them in my humi? But they are so pretty, like little wine bottles resting in the cradle/trays they come in. Anyway will probably open some up soon so they can breathe. Think they will age better naked.
    Haha. How funny. Thats the very reason I started this thread. Because I had no idea (still having doubts) about how to handle these. And yes, too pretty to want to open to throw around naked... image
  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,608
  • rsherman24rsherman24 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,711
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    ^^^could've been plume. They say that mold stains. If it wiped right off, then maybe it was just plume. But anyway, I dont like metal tubos with the screw cap and cedar sheet anyway. Regarding my glass tubes, I went ahead and took them out of the tubes and set them back in the box. I figured what the heck. Can't hurt if I take them off, but it CAN hurt if I leave them on.
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    AshMe:
    ^^^could've been plume. They say that mold stains. If it wiped right off, then maybe it was just plume. But anyway, I dont like metal tubos with the screw cap and cedar sheet anyway. Regarding my glass tubes, I went ahead and took them out of the tubes and set them back in the box. I figured what the heck. Can't hurt if I take them off, but it CAN hurt if I leave them on.
    You can wipe off plume? I thought it was the other way around. You can wipe off mold sometimes but plume is imbedded in the wrapper. Right? I'll try to bump the old plume vs mold thread.
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    ^^^ I'm still rather new so I haven't had mold or plume, so I'm not speaking from first had experience. But from what I have read, plume can be wiped off with your finger, but mold streaks and doesn't lift off. Lets see what some of our more "seasoned" BOTLs think.
  • rsherman24rsherman24 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,711
  • ejgormanejgorman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 891
    For what it's worth, I tend to leave the glass tubos alone. I usually take the caps off my aluminum tubos. This thread made me go and check them all and all is good in the 70* 65% cooler. DISCLAIMER: I've only been at this since February so all my sticks are relatively new.
  • BigshizzaBigshizza Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 10,949
  • AshMeAshMe Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 336
    Thanks big worm. Nothing like hearing advice from a pro.
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