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  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    PuroFreak:
    Vulchor:
    You can do a search as easy as I can and find dozens of links about the problems and amount of deregulation----then youll say every one is wrong and your souces are right......yeah, let me waste my time on trying to influence your close minded beliefs.....lol, sure.
    Oh, so you expect me to do the things you try to do... Like discredit any source someone puts forth like you did with the story from the GOP website... So this is a whole do as I say not as I do type of thing huh?
    My god puro, I've posted several things about it in the obama prize thread. Also do some research. I'm tired of always finding stuff and then posting it only to hear you and kuzi go on and on about how it never happened.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    phobicsquirrel:
    PuroFreak:
    Vulchor:
    You can do a search as easy as I can and find dozens of links about the problems and amount of deregulation----then youll say every one is wrong and your souces are right......yeah, let me waste my time on trying to influence your close minded beliefs.....lol, sure.
    Oh, so you expect me to do the things you try to do... Like discredit any source someone puts forth like you did with the story from the GOP website... So this is a whole do as I say not as I do type of thing huh?
    My god puro, I've posted several things about it in the obama prize thread. Also do some research. I'm tired of always finding stuff and then posting it only to hear you and kuzi go on and on about how it never happened.
    You still have never showed that De-regualtion caused anything. You showed 2 or 3 things where regulation was cut, then I just posted a link to dozens of regulations that have been added. That does NOT amount to de-regualtion when you take away 2 and add 12 more.
  • clearlysuspectclearlysuspect Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,750
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Hes right Squirrel, it is about regulation---I see the light now. Its the screwing over the common man that has been regulated and made commonplace. Without these d@mn regulations AIG, Enron, GM, Lehman Bros and the like would still be having their annual XMas parties in peace and providing security and stability for all mankind...Obama in 8 months has effectively ruined everything 8 years of W. worked so hard at. Minus that whole war thing, and the whole detainee thing, the whole patriot act thing, the whole judge firing thing, the whole...
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Vulchor:
    Hes right Squirrel, it is about regulation---I see the light now. Its the screwing over the common man that has been regulated and made commonplace. Without these d@mn regulations AIG, Enron, GM, Lehman Bros and the like would still be having their annual XMas parties in peace and providing security and stability for all mankind...Obama in 8 months has effectively ruined everything 8 years of W. worked so hard at. Minus that whole war thing, and the whole detainee thing, the whole patriot act thing, the whole judge firing thing, the whole...
    Thats right, keep bashing Bush because you have no idea what you are talking about. Bush was as bad as any Democrat at growing government control. It's funny because you always revert back to Bush and as I have said many many times before, I'm not a fan of the man. I'm not saying what he did was right, he did a few things that I agree with and a LOT that I disagree with. But it's much easier to attack him than it is to face an actual debate about the topic at hand. Keep up the good work!
  • TatuajeVITatuajeVI Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,378
  • gmill880gmill880 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,947
  • TatuajeVITatuajeVI Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,378
    ^^ he said it better than I did. And with actual experience in the field, rather than some google magic, lol. And again, you'll notice that this didn't start with any particular political party - the blame belongs with both parties.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    The blame falls on government in general, both parties and anyone ones else on capitol hill. Government is growing by leaps and bounds and is choking out our freedoms and out markets. Until something changes in this area, we will continue to suffer.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Very well GMill, I trust your facts and being in the business. I am sure this does happen, and is as absurd as any other system meant to "level the playing field"...which I agree, in itself is illogical and using race ignorantly. I perhaps should not have taken on that idea at all, because we are/were talking about a larger issue here---not one specific instance (although I am sure I will be told it is extremely common & the cause of all financial turmoil).
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Vulchor:
    Very well GMill, I trust your facts and being in the business. I am sure this does happen, and is as absurd as any other system meant to "level the playing field"...which I agree, in itself is illogical and using race ignorantly. I perhaps should not have taken on that idea at all, because we are/were talking about a larger issue here---not one specific instance (although I am sure I will be told it is extremely common & the cause of all financial turmoil).
    I wouldn't say that "THAT" is the cause of all the financial problems, but it is one of hundreds of examples of government regulation choking an industry and causing more damage than good.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    I believe no child left behind is regulation which chokes life out of us, I think the govt. being able to access your books checked out of a library in case you may be a "enemy combatant" does more damage than good. Regulating bad loans which work with falsely priced homes through bank that incur more debt that cash coming in-------still cant see it. Not saying regulation of everything is good, FAR FAR FAR from it. Some areas though, which arent transparent enough, only have regulation to ensure the average Joe their not buying ocean front property in Iowa. Greed is fine, but when it is illegal or to the detriment of everyone else involved becomes a public enemy.
  • gmill880gmill880 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,947
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    I think its a huge concern when we are being monitored by our govt. without cause or reason...the path that could lead us down is frightening
  • jsnakejsnake Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,037
    Vulchor:
    I think its a huge concern when we are being monitored by our govt. without cause or reason...the path that could lead us down is frightening
    We are already going down this path.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Nobody ever said that isn't a concern, but we are discussing the financial crisis and the two have nothing to do with each other. It's like when you don't have a valid argument, you change the subject to something totally unrelated.
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