Grades and scores don't mean anything.

jd50ae

Lee.mcglynn

Uuuummmmmmm my sister is a teacher...she worked at a very wealthy high school. She was told the lowest grade she could give was a C. We all really know most colleges just want money! Some ei Harvard,princeston and MIT are hard to get into but at the rate where college grads are actually getting jobs in the field they major in well most colleges just are willing to take anyone. It's sad and when or if I become a father my kid ain't going to college...the trades will rule the world and book smarts mean nothing now and never will unless your a teacher

AshMe

Lee.mcglynn:

Uuuummmmmmm my sister is a teacher...she worked at a very wealthy high school. She was told the lowest grade she could give was a C. We all really know most colleges just want money! Some ei Harvard,princeston and MIT are hard to get into but at the rate where college grads are actually getting jobs in the field they major in well most colleges just are willing to take anyone. It's sad and when or if I become a father my kid ain't going to college...the trades will rule the world and book smarts mean nothing now and never will unless your a teacher

This is tricky. You can bet your balls that if I was talented and learned a trade from my dad or something, thats all I would be doing. Even if I could be a professional fisherman. Unfortunately, not all of us are that lucky and have to go to school to learn something. I agree, though, that book smarts mean diddly...my brother and I both dropped out of high school (I later went back because I wanted to join the USMC)...but unfortunately, some careers cannot be achieved without college. To name a few, Lawyers need law school, doctors need med school, and CPA's need accounting classes to get licensed. But, I feel the majority of learning is done on-hands and in the field, anyway.

First Warrior

I barely graduated from high school, went into the Marines, went to war, survived, and after a number of years became a professional craftsman. I have had some sucess in my making and taught my craft at various craft schools. The students in my classes were getting college credits for those classes. Life is strange.

The3Stogies

matkn293

This is an interesting thread. I agree with many of the points and not here to refute any. I myself, blew through high school playing sports and entertaining women. Same with college. Got by just enough to make the grade and move on. Only classes I put the extra afford were my major classes in drafting and design. This leads me to my point that while a college degree is becoming more necessary as even entry level positions are requiring this. I do not believe it is not the end all, be all for a career. My degree did help me however. It opened the door and have me enough skill to start out with design work for a GC that led to a full time position transitioning into estimating and PM work. After that I started my foray into electrical. This is the who you know part. I knew these guys from working with them at the GC. I knew nothing about electrical but they were willing to teach me because I had a good base with the rest of it (computers, pm work, building, etc). 12 years later out of college I am still learning everyday and yet running 5-8m in electrical projects a year. For me I can't necessarily say that it is just a piece of paper as it led me to where I am today. However, it's what you do with it once you get out and most certainly on the job training is key. You learn more in the first week of a job than you do in a 4 yr degree most times. It is extremely unfortunate that there are institutions out there that are more about class and status of an individual. It almost seems like a social club at times rather than getting someone a base for the future.

perkinke

Gray4lines

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jd50ae

I keep reading interviews with "students" from liberal arts (not all) schools and I am amazed and dumbfounded about how little common sense and world knowledge they have. I think the one that struck me the most is when asked about 9/11 they didn't know what happened. I wouldn't want any of these liberal arts "students" working for me any place but the mail room (after a spelling test). Give me and ex-service person or a trade school graduate every time.

pelirrojo

AshMe

I took the kids to the book store on saturday and saw this. Made me think of this discussion...