Colorado welfare recipients withdraw money in Hawaii, St. Thomas, Vegas

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I just checked the rules for a free (the cost is in your telephone bill) Safeline phone and I qualify. Gee whiz, I get the phone and some minutes and the cost is on my and everyone else's(?) "real" phone bill. Ain't democracy great. So, no tax money just an added little dribble on your phone bill that you had no say in.

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I think I would vote for a president if he made a promise to create "The Department of Bean Counters that Can Arrest You". Staff it with nonpartisan ex investigators with a numbers fixation. The first thing they should do is a complete financial investigation of every congressmen and senator. After the new elections to replace the ones that went to prison they should attack the departments that so freely hand out our tax money to every tom *** and harry with their hands out. Just think of all the new jobs at all the new prisons and jails, not to mention the job vacancy's. And then the states could start the same thing and go after all the welfare cheats and then......sorry, I was hallucinating.

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I wont even go into what role race plays (actually I will)....because everyone will come out with the "Ive got a lot of black friends" but that is at play here as well with the conservative vs welfare. I know personally (and from working where I do) a great deal of people who pride themselves on living in squalor while dipping and drinking till they pass out in front of their kids who are missing school-------but they would side with corporate (white) America 100 times over than they would with a struggling black mother on welfare...........Yes, I know its always about race with "us" liberals and that illegal Obama----I know.

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SleevePlz

Yeah, it sucks. I work in Flint, I see the abuses all the time. I've been offered a Bridge Card (our welfare debit card) with $100 on it for $50. They just tell you the PIN and then claim they lost their card and get a new one the next month when the next payment gets released. How are you going to stop that? Trust me, I think it is infuriating to watch some of my students stocking up on junk at 7 Eleven and swiping that card. But what is the solution? It's easy to be mad, but now what? Shouldn't our discussion be focused on solutions?

Bob Luken

SleevePlz:

Yeah, it sucks. I work in Flint, I see the abuses all the time. I've been offered a Bridge Card (our welfare debit card) with $100 on it for $50. They just tell you the PIN and then claim they lost their card and get a new one the next month when the next payment gets released. How are you going to stop that? Trust me, I think it is infuriating to watch some of my students stocking up on junk at 7 Eleven and swiping that card. But what is the solution? It's easy to be mad, but now what? Shouldn't our discussion be focused on solutions?

How are you going to stop that? That's not a rhetorical question is it? With all the electronic advances in welfare distribution you would think it would be much easier these days to curb fraud. Lets look at your example. How can they (the welfare recipeient) make the claim that their card was lost/stolen AND the secret pin was later used to make purchases? There has to be an electronic record of all the transactions. Right? Unless they were robbed at gunpoint and forced to reveal the pin then their claim would be an obvious lie. I assume that the pin is only given to the intended recipeient. How do you stop it? Well, if the money on the lost/stolen card was spent using the secret pin after the reported loss of the card then the authorities should treat any such claim as fraud because it would be rediculously obvious that the recipient committed fraud. Is that a reasonable solution to your specific example?

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SleevePlz

Bob Luken:

SleevePlz:

Yeah, it sucks. I work in Flint, I see the abuses all the time. I've been offered a Bridge Card (our welfare debit card) with $100 on it for $50. They just tell you the PIN and then claim they lost their card and get a new one the next month when the next payment gets released. How are you going to stop that? Trust me, I think it is infuriating to watch some of my students stocking up on junk at 7 Eleven and swiping that card. But what is the solution? It's easy to be mad, but now what? Shouldn't our discussion be focused on solutions?

How are you going to stop that? That's not a rhetorical question is it? With all the electronic advances in welfare distribution you would think it would be much easier these days to curb fraud. Lets look at your example. How can they (the welfare recipeient) make the claim that their card was lost/stolen AND the secret pin was later used to make purchases? There has to be an electronic record of all the transactions. Right? Unless they were robbed at gunpoint and forced to reveal the pin then their claim would be an obvious lie. I assume that the pin is only given to the intended recipeient. How do you stop it? Well, if the money on the lost/stolen card was spent using the secret pin after the reported loss of the card then the authorities should treat any such claim as fraud because it would be rediculously obvious that the recipient committed fraud. Is that a reasonable solution to your specific example?

No it isn't, actually. I must not have been clear enough about what is done. They don't claim the card is lost to get the money back. They claim the card is lost so the next month's allotment doesn't go on the card that they no longer possess. The lost/stolen claim is just to receive a new card the following month with the new money on it. The scam is to simply trade $100 in food stamps for $50 in cash to probably spend on stuff they can't buy with the EBT card.

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