Specific freezing question.

Bob Luken

This may evolve into a full blown discussion on freezing in general (as usually happens) but, anyhoo, here goes......... I freeze almost all my new cigars. Most of the cigars I have received in TPBs I have not frozen but have kept separated in desktop humis. My specific ponderation today is this - If someone has sent you a cigar that has a bit of age on it already, would freezing the cigar now have any negative effects to any greater degree than for a new stick? Would you be causing any significant setback to the aging process?

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

I've had beetles with cigars that are older, specifically a partagas 150, or el Truinfador lance, and an old habanos. Those eggs apparently can last over a decade. I freeze everything that goes in a humi, aged or not. If I don't want to, it goes in the temp control.

kuzi16

kuzi16

catfishbluezz:

I've had beetles with cigars that are older, specifically a partagas 150, or el Truinfador lance, and an old habanos. Those eggs apparently can last over a decade. I freeze everything that goes in a humi, aged or not. If I don't want to, it goes in the temp control.

these are most likely a secondary source of infestation.

FireRob

I did not know about Kuzi's info on life span of the eggs. My policy has alway been to freeze every thing I get new or old unless I plan on smoking right then and there. Always wondered of the need to do it with something older but froze them anyways and will probably continue to do so...

Patrickbrick

That was a good read, thank you Kuzi.

kuzi16

FireRob:

I did not know about Kuzi's info on life span of the eggs. My policy has alway been to freeze every thing I get new or old unless I plan on smoking right then and there. Always wondered of the need to do it with something older but froze them anyways and will probably continue to do so...

I still HIGHLY recommend freezing any new addition to the humidor. just because they have been aged does not mean that they were not recently infected.

D Fresh

Very interesting stuff and something I was not aware of being new to cigars. Going back to Bob's original question, I am interested if it has any negative effects on aging.

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

kuzi16:

catfishbluezz:

I've had beetles with cigars that are older, specifically a partagas 150, or el Truinfador lance, and an old habanos. Those eggs apparently can last over a decade. I freeze everything that goes in a humi, aged or not. If I don't want to, it goes in the temp control.

these are most likely a secondary source of infestation.

they weren't

kuzi16

Bob Luken

kuzi16

should all be good. age is about oils. the oils dont break down when a cigar is frozen unless it dries out as well.

Lee.mcglynn

I use to freeze...that being said I have lost some smoke in the summer monthes so well I don't any more. As kuzi has sent the link it's all about storage temps to me. As long as I'm lower then 65 degrees I'm good. For the people in hotter climates I feel it's a gamble. Yes fridge to freezer to fridge sounds ok but if you live in hot climates out of the fridge can really put a hurt on you! This is where just climate controle really plays a big part!

Bigshizza

I would think all CC's need to be tossed in the freezer..? Yes?

kuzi16

Yes yes yes.

catfishbluezz

Bigshizza:

I would think all CC's need to be tossed in the freezer..? Yes?

Habanos SA freezes everything. I've had more from NC then CC. You are less likely to get them from Habanos, but should still freeze everything that is not temp controlled.

catfishbluezz

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

Since you are googling things, you should look up outlier as well. There is no debate.

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

Ok, so you are calling me a liar. My evidence lies in my experience, which you refuse to accept, and tell me I am wrong. Good day sir. Again, look up outlier... and take a xanax.

kuzi16

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

You don't understand science...its cool. And I already answered in regard to another source, it was not possible. Have a great day.

kuzi16

catfishbluezz

kuzi16

kuzi16

catfishbluezz:

Yes people you can get beetles in old cigars and even cigars that have been frozen.

then why do you freeze? please teach me. i want to know.

catfishbluezz

kuzi16:

catfishbluezz:

Yes people you can get beetles in old cigars and even cigars that have been frozen.

then why do you freeze? please teach me. i want to know.

to statistically decrease your chance of getting beetles. You've been learned.